Bands Successfully Reflecting Their Old Spirit |
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Shadowyzard
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Here, let's talk about seasoned bands that are able to make potent and soulful albums after all those years.
The first 2 bands that came to my mind are Eloy and Gryphon. I think Eloy's "Ocean 2: The Answer" is very well done in this regard. The latter's "ReInvention" is also a success story. Anyone want to add and/or discuss? Edited by Shadowyzard - March 03 2020 at 06:34 |
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Pendragon - Love Over Fear, quite possibly their masterwork 41 years into their career.
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I think this depends entirely on the ineluctable vagaries of the market i.e will sufficient people buy an album by (insert 70's Prog ensemble here) to make the investment by a record company/distributor viable? That said, if Eloy and Gryphon are doing this entirely under their own steam via their own website downloads, are there sufficient sales to sustain touring and future product?
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I cannot answer this question. Yet I doubt if almost any band's members are able to make money from album sales anymore. If I have to guess, Eloy and Gryphon should be able to find enough crowd for live performances. Album success is a plus, but sufficient number of fans would attend their concerts anyway, I daresay.
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Bubu
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I can't think of a better example than Magma for continuing to make potent and soulful albums after all those years.
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Hi, No kidding ... and what a great example this is of what great music can do for a band. I think it depends ... on each and every band ... another one that is incredible, is BANCO ... who lost Francesco di Giacomo, its voice and for many of us it might have signaled the end of the band ... but then all of a sudden there is a new album and Vittorio Nocenzi is now the leader (I think -- don't know), and it is just as good as the early stuff, even if we might miss what really was the classical singer that Francesco was that created such an amazing band, totally different than every rock/whatever kind of band. (TRANSIBERIANA) ... Not many bands can make that jump and stick together ... but when you see one ... it's not a miracle, but it shows how well they worked together to create a piece of music ... and continued doing so. The true mark of an artist!
Hi, And I like their latest ... shame that it does not get better sales or responses. That main song, is a very good one and very strong ... but I think it hits people not quite right! (... it might have been springsteen ...) Edited by moshkito - March 03 2020 at 08:45 |
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Absolutely. The Ferryman's Curse is very good.
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Magma is a good pick as is Gryphon. I'll suggest Comus who's return after a few decades was surprisingly good. |
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Kansas' 2016 album, The Prelude Implicit, is a good example.
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Ah, I have yet to listen to the new Kansas album.
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Goblin, of course. Eloy and Kansas, too.
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Hear hear.New album coming out in June.
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Shake & bake.
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Magma, Bubu and Gryphon are fine examples, but let's not forget to mention Supersister.
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Rajaz by Camel, that’s the answer you’re looking for
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^^ I have yet to hear that Supersister album. I love the first three albums and I like Iskander very much too.
Not saying you're wrong to do so, but I find it interesting that you would choose an album that's two years older than you as an example of a "potent and soulful album after all those years". Of course Camel released a few more after that.
Comus crossed my mind too, although I actually prefer the generally ill thought of To Keep From Crying to Out of the Coma. To me Out of the Coma felt too "by numbers" and like something of a pastiche of First Utterance. I rather felt similarly about Magma's K.A. too (I called that Prog Magma by numbers or some such thing). The longest track "The Maalgard Suite" is of course an old recording and not of high audio quality. That said, I do like the album, but it seems a little soulless, not fresh, a bit like not being altogether out of a coma and being slightly mildewy. It's like jumping on the late-found success and discovery/ re-discovery of the first album, and making an album to expectations rather than showing progression and growth over the intervening years (feeling overmuch like a fan service album to me). But yes, it does reflect the old Comus spirit, and has playful quality still (Comus likes to play, play, play...) but seems less spirited to me in a way. Said it before, but when I think of Out of the Coma I think of Spinal Tap's return with "Back from the Dead". "...We're back from the grave Recovered from our coma More body than aroma It's life that we crave..."(Spinal Tap). Edited by Logan - March 03 2020 at 16:07 |
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I would add Stve Hackett and Martin Barre. Their music is fantastic, inventive and full of power.
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