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^ I don't know for sure but I get the feeling some don't explore Genesis more because they are judging them by their 80's hits. They are too poppy for them and they assume the 70's Genesis stuff was similar to that.
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Just haven't gotten around to it. I understand that Selling England is supposed to be the best one
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Originally posted by glaswegians glaswegians wrote:

Just haven't gotten around to it. I understand that Selling England is supposed to be the best one


Wow. If you don't mind me asking what have you gotten around to so far? 
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Originally posted by glaswegians glaswegians wrote:

Just haven't gotten around to it. I understand that Selling England is supposed to be the best one

Eh, the best one is a toss up between Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England, The Lamb, and A Trick. England sits in the middle of the range of sounds and styles each of these present, so that's probably why it gets pushed as the best one. No doubt it's incredible, but it has some pretty controversial tracks (More Fool Me and The Battle Of Epping Forest), for the most part Foxtrot and A Trick Of The Tail don't have any highly disputed tracks like those, and Nursery Cryme and The Lamb don't have very much in the way of majorly disliked tracks either. 

Starting with England could be a great choice, but I personally would recommend Foxtrot or A Trick Of The Tail first, as I find both of them much more consistent and Foxtrot especially has more fun idiosyncrasies to sink your teeth into. But then Supper's Ready isn't the most accessible 23 minute epic in the world, lol.

I actually started (as far as prog genesis goes) with Nursery Cryme and Wind And Wuthering, neither of which really hit with me for a long time, but now I love them.
Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^ I don't know for sure but I get the feeling some don't explore Genesis more because they are judging them by their 80's hits. They are too poppy for them and they assume the 70's Genesis stuff was similar to that.

Hi,

It was vastly different for me ... by that time, I was already FULL BLAST into the European bands, and things like Genesis, seemed not as valuable or important as things from Spain, Italy, Germany or France, to mention a few ... and I lost interest. There are only 2 albums by that band that I really like ... and the others are nice listens, but nothing as great as the many things from all over Europe. That band was over for me, big or not, lots of money or not!

It's strange to me that some folks continued with it, just because it was "progressive" when it's "progressiveness" can be counted in one hand!
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I just bought In the Land of Grey and Pink by Caravan. I know it's pretty well known, but most people I know have never heard of it. Nine feet underground is the the best track (in my opinion).
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Just been listening to the first  ELP album 'Emerson Lake & Palmer' , as have been reading Greg Lake's autobiography 'Lucky Man'.  Amazed how good it is ....but remain unconvinced by 'Lucky Man' . It's not a bad song by any means, just that the rest of the album is so extraordinary , just  doesn't quite belong. 
I just can't compare 'Emerson Lake and Palmer' the album to anything else that seemed to be happening at the time. Really want to explore the Classical music influences that inspired ELP's music at the time. 

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^ Lake often mentioned that they were short of track after recording mots of it so he offered a little ditti he had written about 5 years earlier as a homage to Bob Dylan. Adding the moog solo is what made the track great. It's a good end to the album imo and doesn't spoil it. It also helped the band get the music 'out there' as it was played a bit on radio , so it served a purpose and also more importantly showed another side to the band.
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Yes, obviously it's about personal tastes. In Greg Lake's autobiography -'Lucky Man' - he claims that the song was needed as a filler for the first album. ELP hadn't been together for long, and there seemed to be a lot of pressure on them to deliver enough material for an album. And they were a few minutes short . Can see that outside of Britain 'Lucky Man' as a radio-friendly single helped the band reach a wider audience. There was no guarantee that ELP would get noticed or appreciated across the Atlantic, or in Europe. 

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ Lake often mentioned that they were short of track after recording mots of it so he offered a little ditti he had written about 5 years earlier as a homage to Bob Dylan. Adding the moog solo is what made the track great. It's a good end to the album imo and doesn't spoil it. It also helped the band get the music 'out there' as it was played a bit on radio , so it served a purpose and also more importantly showed another side to the band.
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Originally posted by Droxford Droxford wrote:

Really want to explore the Classical music influences that inspired ELP's music at the time.
 
The Barbarian comes from Béla Bartók (Allegro Barbaro).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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