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Ayreon's Into the Electric Castle comes to mind. Love the album, but the concept seems over the top and the campy sci-fi lyrics really hits the "P" word fairly nicely.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Anders Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2020 at 14:31
I do love quite a few albums that are over-the-top. But pretentious for me means music that pretends to be something it's not - or alternately, pretends to be significant without actually being it. And that usually leaves me cold.


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Okay, as promised, here's the first of my pretentious over-the-top prog album choices, and I absolutely love it! Smile
 
FIRST+AID - Nostradamus (1976) - Album Review:- https://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2283625
 

I just listened to that album for the very first time, and it is really absolutely pretentious and over the top. It even includes, for whatever reason, parts of a Hitler and a Kennedy speech.

Did I like it? No. This overgrown cheeseburger made me burp. I need to wash it down with a bottle of Bordeaux.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

[QUOTE=chopper] Can you get more pretentious and OTT than Tales From Topographic Oceans?




KE9 is pretentious AF. The whole thing feels contrived. Too preconceived. Too overdone. The way the vocal melody and moog melody match up at certain parts drives me crazy, and feels forced.


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^I'm beginning to think there's way more classic rock fans who like ELP than actual prog fans who do. Smile Maybe because classic rock fans don't over analyze and just enjoy the music. Just a thought. :P

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For me it would be olias of sunhillow by Jon Anderson, tales from topographic oceans or maybe MDK by Magma. Maybe Brain Salad too what the heck.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^I'm beginning to think there's way more classic rock fans who like ELP than actual prog fans who do. Smile Maybe because classic rock fans don't over analyze and just enjoy the music. Just a thought. :P

I like their debut, "Tarkus", "Trilogy" and to a certain degree "Pictures at an Exhibition". I mostly dislike "Brain Salad Surgery". Anything after that I don't like at all.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

^I'm beginning to think there's way more classic rock fans who like ELP than actual prog fans who do. Smile Maybe because classic rock fans don't over analyze and just enjoy the music. Just a thought. :P

I like their debut, "Tarkus", "Trilogy" and to a certain degree "Pictures at an Exhibition". I mostly dislike "Brain Salad Surgery". Anything after that I don't like at all.

My main problem with BSS is that parts of Karn Evil 9 first impression repeat itself too much and it gets to be a bit tiring after a while. Other than I think it's pretty great. I especially like the latin jazz piano part(don't remember exactly which section)and also tocatta. 
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Tales from Topographic Oceans! Tongue One of my favorite prog albums ever.
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Can you get more pretentious and OTT than Tales From Topographic Oceans?

Nope! It's my first pick coming into this thread. No reservations, no shame, that album is the pinnacle of what everyone despised about prog rock, and for that reason alone it's an artistic gem worthy of praise! Yes took it all the way. Those boys knew their power.

It's still boring as hell though. Cool

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2020 at 10:01
Pholas Dactytlus's bruising and braincell killing masterpiece of pretension and shear over the topness that make ELP look like fucing Camel or Genesis is the first to come to mind.. and god damn do I love that album
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I know they aren't a lot of people's cup of tea, but I am surprised no one mentioned The Mars Volta's Frances the Mute. Yes, it IS pretentious and OTT as hell, but it is also the album that made me fall in love with the band.
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Mike Oldfield's 'Incantations' .....There are some great ideas spread a bit too thin for a double album, but I wouldn't change it. And having Maddy Prior singing  a piece based on  Longfellow's 'The Song of Hiawatha' and a choir singing the Ben Johnson poem 'Diana' with an orchestra featured throughout seems a brave move in 1978 when there was a backlash against Prog.  Sections of  the album  have a subdued almost type disco beat, particularly in part one.  Very fond of this album 
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I quess Wigwam´s Fairyport is also pretentious if Trout is too...

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Originally posted by Droxford Droxford wrote:

Mike Oldfield's 'Incantations' .....There are some great ideas spread a bit too thin for a double album, but I wouldn't change it. And having Maddy Prior singing  a piece based on  Longfellow's 'The Song of Hiawatha' and a choir singing the Ben Johnson poem 'Diana' with an orchestra featured throughout seems a brave move in 1978 when there was a backlash against Prog.  Sections of  the album  have a subdued almost type disco beat, particularly in part one.  Very fond of this album 

Oldifeld locked himself away for 9 months to record this so was probably not that 'brave' and may not even have realised that music was changing. He certainly 'rectified' that on Platinum. Incantations is a desert island disc for me. I love it but he was certainly pushing it as far as it could go. That was probably the last really OTT album of the seventies (well until The Wall)


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OTT Prog is my favorite Prog!!!

(Tales and The Lamb are my two favorite LP's ever...)
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anything in the last 12 years by Nightwish, perhaps Imaginearum being the best
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I know they aren't a lot of people's cup of tea, but I am surprised no one mentioned The Mars Volta's Frances the Mute. Yes, it IS pretentious and OTT as hell, but it is also the album that made me fall in love with the band.

Good call! Not the biggest fan of the voice, but otherwise indeed, pretentious and cool.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Droxford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2020 at 13:57
Yes good points. Mike Oldfield may well  have got so immersed in recording 'Incantations' and not realised that there was an assault on Prog going on . The whole rise of Punk and New Wave  was probably more of an issue for new Prog bands starting out and lesser known bands then Mike Oldfield-just looking at Britain. 
Possibly the 'pushing it as far as it could go'  album must be ELP 'Works Volume 1' complete with a piano concerto . Not a release that I love ,but admire the sheer brashness of the band. 


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Oldifeld locked himself away for 9 months to record this so was probably not that 'brave' and may not even have realised that music was changing. He certainly 'rectified' that on Platinum. Incantations is a desert island disc for me. I love it but he was certainly pushing it as far as it could go. That was probably the last really OTT album of the seventies (well until The Wall)
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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

OTT Prog is my favorite Prog!!!

(Tales and The Lamb are my two favorite LP's ever...)

OOT prog all day, son! Go big or go home! I love the lines we draw in the sand though it's super interesting!

Originally posted by satanellus satanellus wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Can you get more pretentious and OTT than Tales From Topographic Oceans?

Nope! It's my first pick coming into this thread. No reservations, no shame, that album is the pinnacle of what everyone despised about prog rock, and for that reason alone it's an artistic gem worthy of praise! Yes took it all the way. Those boys knew their power.
 
It's still boring as hell though. Cool

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Fantastic for driving long distances lol.
 

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