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softandwet ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 06 2019 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 211 |
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Personally, I am very influenced by PA rating when it comes to find new music. Is it bad, good? I don't know since I never seem disappointed by those ratings. But I won't seriously listen to an album if it is rated lower than 4 stars on PA.
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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Nope. I like Kansas' 80s albums, that have 2 and whatever fraction ratings. Also there are tons of 3 and whatever fraction below 5 rated albums (3.1, 3.2 etc) here that I adore. Also I hate Leprous and Mastodon, and only laugh at the ratings that they get with their miserable albums. As a specific example, I think Dream Theater - Awake is thousands of times better than Images and Words. Scenes from a Memory deserves that position, while Awake deserves it even more, I think.
So a big NO, from me. Edited by Shadowyzard - July 02 2020 at 17:18 |
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ForestFriend ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2017 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 685 |
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Not for me, I disagree with plenty. If I'm trying to investigate an artist, I'll try to listen to their top-rated albums to get a good impression, but I'm not going to force myself to like something because others like it.
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softandwet ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 06 2019 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 211 |
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Yes and so am I, but I feel forced to dig a band by its "better albums" to start. And at last I forget the others that might be good! |
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21797 |
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Nope, I certainly refer to it when checking out new music but I also check out Gnosis and RYM. If it's highly rated and is in an area I enjoy then it's probably a safe bet but otherwise I'm more likely to go with Gnosis ahead of PA.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19718 |
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I use the ratings as a general guideline but I often take them with a grain of salt. If it's a band or album I'm unfamiliar with I tend to take it a bit more seriously then I usually would. However, even then if I see it and it's at least a 3.5 and has a good number of 4 stars I'll definitely consider it. Sometimes if the album has very few 5 stars but a good number of 4 stars it will still get a relatively low rating. Also, you have to figure sometimes at least those giving an album a really low rating just don't like that style.
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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Not really. I like the reviews, since they give me an idea of the music, and helps me decide if I want to give it a try, but ratings, honestly, I could care less.
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Masquerade ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 10 2006 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 8 |
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Long ago on this site Discipline from King Crimson was rated a mere three and a half stars.
So I tend to rely in good reviewers that I like/trust than general ratings or random reviews.
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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Haha, no.
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9217 |
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yep, it's the reviews
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 18084 |
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That would be a big fat NO! Why would you blindly let someone you don't know dictate your musical joys? Trust your own ears and mind......listen to everything.
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siLLy puPPy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() PSIKE, JRF/Canterbury, P Metal, Eclectic Joined: October 05 2013 Location: SFcaUsA Status: Offline Points: 15495 |
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I would say that everything influences us so hard to say no. I mean there are many artists i never would've heard of without this site and reviewers so sure. Now influence how i like an album based on ratings probably not.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 46187 |
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King Crimson's Discipline is only a two-star album for me, although I'm more often accused of overrating albums.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19718 |
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I have noticed that bands often show up on the main page(as in the top fifty list)when an album by them has a rating of 4 or higher. I don't think I've ever seen an artist pop up if their album on the main page only had a 3 star rating. Since that top fifty band list is about the most popular that tells me that people on here are going by ratings more than reviews.
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7640 |
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My thoughts exactly. Thanks, Manuel!
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Homotopy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 14 2016 Location: Guatemala Status: Offline Points: 213 |
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There was similar thread here a month ago.
Not listening to <4 stars is a bit too much, I would say. Personally I consider anything above, say, 3.75 as pretty high. Also otherwise I guess I would have run out of albums by this moment. By the way, despite my agreement with PA on what are the best/worst albums by most of the artists, sometimes I really regret looking at ratings too much: for example, due to ratings it's only recently that I've tried The Difference Machine by BBT, which is rated ~0.5 (!!!) lower then its successors (and I don't even like them), and it turned out as to be one of my best recent discoveries. 3.64, really? Sometimes I don't get PA's opinion at all.
Finally, lower-rated albums are often plain catchy and pleasant despite being less progressive. |
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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There must be albums on PA with a low score overall (possibly in Crossover or Proto) that you really liked before you discovered Prog Archives? Ignore the score - your ears are the best reviewer we've got. If you don't even trust your own judgement then how can you express an opinion about anything?
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Homotopy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 14 2016 Location: Guatemala Status: Offline Points: 213 |
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Meanwhile, what is influenced by the rating is new ratings. Seen so many reviews in the vein of "why is it rated higher than /a classical album name/, it's not greater, 1 star!"
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dougmcauliffe ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 23 2019 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3895 |
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^^^ Every time without failure there's always 1 or 2 reviews like this. No need to compare and let a list (PA top 100) dictate how you review or listen to something
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 6170 |
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Not at all. Look, Blå som Altid by Ache is rated pretty low on Progarchives (3.17 as of now) but I absolutely love this album.
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