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First song on Pan.Thy.Monium's first album. 21:46
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Mickey is taking the piss by defining CTTE as a pop song....

nah.. just pissing on those who don't know a thing about music...

What everyone seems to forget about Yes.. were they were fans of pop music and HIGHLY influenced BY pop music. The stated goal of the group was to merge ..not classical with rock.. but high powered instrumental ability with the catchiness and hooks of pop music. Close to the Edge is nothing more earthshaking than possibly the world's first..hell maybe only 19 minute long pop song. Complete with the intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/middle8/instrumental-break/verse/chorus/outro pop song structure. 
While everyone went on thinking that standard popular song formats would only support 2 or 3 minute long songs.. Yes showed that the standard pop format could support complex and sustained melodies. The trick of it again.. to pull it off it had to be all about quality. Otherwise.. you would have to aural equivilant of having 19 minutes of 'My Heart Will Go On: Love Theme from Titanic' pumped into your brain. Even with the kick ass rickenbacker.. I suspect that would not be enough to hold on to many listeners.

What about Echoes by Pink Floyd? It seems to me like that song also follows a more or less verse/chorus format with a big extended bridge.
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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Harvest of Souls, The Last Human Gateway (OK, it's 3s short on the original, but not on the 2013 remix) and The Narrow Margin by IQ are all stunning


Huge IQ fan, so completely agree these are all classics.....but are they really non-symphonic?  Yes, IQ are called neo, but really?.....
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Hello !
Non symphonic prog epic ?


MODRY EFFECT Nova Syntéza2 22:15
MAGMA Félicité Thosz : 28:06
OPETH Black Rose Immortal 20:14
DELUGE GRANDER Inaugural Bash 26:57 Heart
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If CTTE is a pop song, then I'm a fecking stunning 21 year old blonde, with large hooters and a full set of working female plumbing accesories...😁
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Pics please!
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TAAB part 1, TAAB part 2. Each at 20 minutes.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Pics please!
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

If CTTE is a pop song, then I'm a fecking stunning 21 year old blonde, with large hooters and a full set of working female plumbing accesories...😁

Surprising as internet can be ! I really imagined you to be a male in his 50s... Would be nice to drink a beer with you (and that has nothing to do with the hooters, sincerely).

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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Pics please!

Eh? Well CTTE aint pop amd I've got a set of hairy danglers and usually blue fluff in my belly button amidst a dense thicket of black hair...i'm the missing link me....more neanderthal genes than most probably....😃
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Sounds about right.  
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

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Amon Düül II: Yeti, Syntelman´s March Of the Roaring Seventies, Restless Skylight - Transistor Child & Chamsin Soundtrack
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Hi,

Kinda weird to see this listed, specially when Renate has explained that one of their most important inspirations in the early days, was CLASSICAL MUSIC ... not rock music, or pop music, and these long cuts just continuing non stop is a sort of classical piece with rock instruments ... as for Symphonic, when we wake up to defining it properly, and not having keyboards cheating ... let me know ... I have never thought of AD2 as "non-symphonic" at all ... just classical, and the word "symphonic" is a part of it, although in the 20th century the parts that made it "symphonic" (ie ... melody) were kinda left behind very often to create something different.

Pretty soon, Stravinsky is not "symphonic" either ... Tomita, showed us differently!
Really, I am not the one caring which category some music belongs, all I care is GREAT MUSIC! In PA I think Amon Düül is put into KRAUTROCK, that´s the reason why I mentioned these great pieces in this thread.
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The Legend of Elijah Shade - Arena
London Song - Big Big Train
The Underfall Yard - Big Big Train
Sleeping in Traffic - Beardfish
Big Boy - Cheeto's Magazine
Singularity - Devin Townsend
Illumination Theory - Dream Theater
Octavarium - Dream Theater
Symphony No. 2 - Egg
Parallel World - Far East Family Band
A Pleasant Shade of Grey - Fates Warning
Milliontown - Frost*
Seas of Change - Galahad
Providence - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Visions - Haken
Three Minute Warning - Liquid Tension Experiment
Cassandra Gemini - The Mars Volta
Hergest Ridge, Pt. I - Mike Oldfield
Return to Ommadawn, Pt. I and Pt. II - Mike Oldfield
Tubular Bells, Pt. I and Pt. II - Mike Oldfield
As Falls Wichita, So Falls Wichita Falls - Pat Metheny & Lyle Mays
The Way Up - Pat Metheny Group
Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
The Sky Moves Sideways (Alternate Version) - Porcupine Tree
Raider II - Steven Wilson
The Divine Wings of Tragedy - Symphony X
The Odyssey - Symphony X
Concealing Fate - TesseracT
Meurglys III (The Songwriters Guild) - Van der Graaf Generator
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - Van der Graaf Generator

The full version of Phish's "Time Turns Elastic" (which comprises the majority of Trey Anastasio's solo album of the same name) is well over 20 minutes.
The Tale of the Altered Beast by King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard falls 13 seconds short.

To name a few :P


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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Mickey is taking the piss by defining CTTE as a pop song....

nah.. just pissing on those who don't know a thing about music...

What everyone seems to forget about Yes.. were they were fans of pop music and HIGHLY influenced BY pop music. The stated goal of the group was to merge ..not classical with rock.. but high powered instrumental ability with the catchiness and hooks of pop music. Close to the Edge is nothing more earthshaking than possibly the world's first..hell maybe only 19 minute long pop song. Complete with the intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/middle8/instrumental-break/verse/chorus/outro pop song structure. 
While everyone went on thinking that standard popular song formats would only support 2 or 3 minute long songs.. Yes showed that the standard pop format could support complex and sustained melodies. The trick of it again.. to pull it off it had to be all about quality. Otherwise.. you would have to aural equivilant of having 19 minutes of 'My Heart Will Go On: Love Theme from Titanic' pumped into your brain. Even with the kick ass rickenbacker.. I suspect that would not be enough to hold on to many listeners.

CTTE is my favorite prog recording of all time, and I don't disagree at all with this.

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La Fiesta - Chick Corea (off the album Return to Forever, which I suppose is where the name for his subsequent group came from).
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Mickey is taking the piss by defining CTTE as a pop song....

nah.. just pissing on those who don't know a thing about music...

What everyone seems to forget about Yes.. were they were fans of pop music and HIGHLY influenced BY pop music. The stated goal of the group was to merge ..not classical with rock.. but high powered instrumental ability with the catchiness and hooks of pop music. Close to the Edge is nothing more earthshaking than possibly the world's first..hell maybe only 19 minute long pop song. Complete with the intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/middle8/instrumental-break/verse/chorus/outro pop song structure. 
While everyone went on thinking that standard popular song formats would only support 2 or 3 minute long songs.. Yes showed that the standard pop format could support complex and sustained melodies. The trick of it again.. to pull it off it had to be all about quality. Otherwise.. you would have to aural equivilant of having 19 minutes of 'My Heart Will Go On: Love Theme from Titanic' pumped into your brain. Even with the kick ass rickenbacker.. I suspect that would not be enough to hold on to many listeners.

CTTE is my favorite prog recording of all time, and I don't disagree at all with this.

CTTE is so obviously not a 'pop song' its ridiculous. My god it has melody and perhaps some hummable sections so it must be pop. I also hereby disqualify Suppers Ready and Karn Evil 9. If you can listen to it without getting a headache then it can't be prog obviously. (ok ELP may give you a headache anywayLOL)
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Not a prog epic ? Are you sure ? In fact, I didn't fund the prog definition on progarchives... Confused


Edited by Muskrat - July 27 2020 at 05:24
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Nine Feet Underground, Caravan. I don't reckon that counts as symphonic...?
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This should get the blood circulating:


39:08 of progulosity 2020 style by Zorn's Simulacrum group (Medeski / Hollenberg / Grohowski). Some of the best music released this year, according to me.
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ahem... no one mentioned these so far?



and how about this?




and hardly anyone knows this:




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