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    Posted: February 04 2022 at 12:11
^ that is a sad story. My condolences. I had a storage unit break in one time and lost hundreds of LPs, CDs and other crap. I can relate. Music collections are particularly distressing due to how much emotional connection we have to them.

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     Thanks for the emphatic responses concerning my cd and lp collection that was stolen. I empathize with all of you who had similar experiences. Well over 1500 CD’s alone were taken. What really hurt are the tools and other very personal belongings stolen like personal items from growing up.   I don’t think about this except when a topic like box sets is brought up or I think of my grandfather, for example. I had very personal things given to me by him and my grandmother. I also took care of him during the last two years of his life here on earth in the flesh. His spirit is something that can not be taken from me.   There’s so much more that’s important in life such as family and friends. Still music is a big part of me and keeps me company like a good friend. I’m moving along with replacing my collection. It’s fun replacing it as I can get the latest remasters and the box sets of catalogs.    
     Here’s a funny and sad story. I left home at a young age as I thought I was ready to conquer the world and I did just want to get away too, a common theme among some young people. I didn’t have an easy childhood. We weren’t poor and never went wanting. There’s more to growing up than having food and clothing, etc. I’m not complaining about my parents in any way either. Life has taught me a lot and we aren’t perfect. We have to do the best we can.
     I guess I could say I grew up with very demanding parents. This had its toll on me and I wanted to get away from this like a pressure that builds and builds and needs to be released. I released this pressure in the wrong way as I only knew how to then. It’s funny as I think back how much growing up I missed with not finishing high school or going to college with the friends I made growing up. Such an important time of life and not to be wasted. I didn’t realize how much I would miss by “growing up to fast.”
      I left everything at home including my vinyl collection, cds hadn’t been invented yet. I left home with the cloths on my back.   My collection consisted of the classic Prog releases and a lot of classic rock. I was also into the new at the time heavy metal movement including nwobhm and the thrash and speed metal movement. I don’t listen to thrash, speed metal or nwobhm anymore. The Prog metal movement had yet to start except for bands like Queensryche and Fates Warning who I was into.   I do listen to Prog metal still.
       I ended up crawling my way home as I had ended up literally homeless for several years off and on, mostly on.   I had found I wasn’t ready for living on my own. I did leave at the age of 16 rather hastily and had a problem with drugs. I’m getting a bit personal and off topic but oh well. I don’t touch drugs now and this has been for a long long time. I’m very much against drugs and the waste of life they produce. They almost killed me and at such a young age.
       When I finally came back it was to a much different house. My mother was single as my father left. It was now my mother, my brother and my sister was in college. All of my friends had gone through their growth spurts, maturity physically and otherwise for the most. So I had to acclimate to a lot. Anyways my dear brother was listening to a lot of the music I grew up with mixed with hair metal only to gravitate to the God forbidden rap and hip hop genres. He had my vinyl collection all set up for his D.J.ing he was into. This is the age of using records once again God forbid for making that dumb scratch sound d.j.s were and are so proud of and used in rap and hip hop. He was also using records as samples.
     The first time I saw this he had my entire collection together and had King Crimson’s “In the Court of the Crimson King” 21st Century Schizoid Man all cued up and ready for a scratch session. I proceeded to watch him make a scratchy mess of my vinyl. This was all new to me and shocking. I said Donald that ruins the vinyl!   My vinyl was now all ruined as he had gone through all of them.
     I have to laugh now. I accepted this immediately as I was just happy and grateful to be back home off the streets alive and with my brother and the rest of my family minus my father. I love my family dearly though we are currently estranged unfortunately. I was happy I was able to contribute to my brothers happiness with my vinyl collection and got over the fact they were all but ruined for proper listening immediately. It was much more important my brother was happy. This was during a most important period of life for him with finding himself. He was 12 years old, entering puberty and junior high school. I remembered when I was 12 and how music, girls and finding my interests and personality and unique attributes had started with a flood.
     It was so important he did not go the route I went. I was grateful Prog lived on in the samples he created. At least I could contribute to a music form I don’t like at all with my Prog and classic rock collection. Some of the music he created actually sounded good with the samples. So I pretended to like his music to the point I actually liked a “few” songs. What I did like and appreciate was his creativity using samples. It was so important to be that big brother he missed out on for several years. I had a lot of making up to do and did the best I could. He was the man in the house while I was gone and I was proud and sad about this at the same time. I still am, mostly sad. At least I could fulfill this part now and I did.
     I know I got off topic yet I needed to vent a bit. Thanks for listening. I will not make this a habit.
      
     
     

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Love From Planet Gong is a box set definitely worth looking into. It features several outstanding concerts . In the 70s and 80s I only had access to Gong Live Etc, Greasy Truckers, and Est Mort and although Greasy Truckers and Gong Live Etc are included here in their entirety there are several outstanding shows in the box set that I never heard and if you love Gong..they are a must!!


Material drawn from Gong Live Etc were excerpts from different shows. The performances they were edited , but here they are featured properly with completeness. You also get a disc of BBC recordings which I highly recommend and of course the Gong trilogy studio albums. The box set contains the Green Book. The Green Book features many of Daevid Allen's illustrations. Additionally you get a booklet which features photographs of the band along with its history.

The price of this box set unfortunately has increased at least a hundred dollars. I ordered it in November 2020 and with postage included it ended up being $126.00. When it arrived on my door step I was overwhelmed. When it's released again the retail price will decrease. It's a completely fascinating box set.. One of a kind that's for sure
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Some of these posts make for painful reading. I mean, shoplifting a musicassette of Queen’s Greatest Hits out of Woolworths is one thing, but the soulless wretch who would rip off another man’s record collection is lower than whale sh*t in my estimation. Sympathies to the victims, and may karma visit the perps.

Hell, I’m still sore about the hippy I lent three jazz LPs to in Newcastle in 1991 who vanished without returning them. Alastair, if you’re reading this, it’s not over. And when I finally track you down those LPs better not be scratched.

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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I was about to get The Cassiber Box, but Wayside refunded me because they didn't have it in stock. 


Just ordered it! Found a cheaper selection on Discogs.

I actually found all five of their studio albums for sale at RéR for £5 each and free shipping, so I went with that instead of getting the box set. I tacked on two Stevan Tickmayer albums while I was at it, someone I haven't ever listened to before but the descriptions sounded like I might like his stuff. 

I'm actually rather surprised they offer free shipping to the U.S. from the U.K. Not sure how they're able to do that, but if this purchase goes through OK, I may be a repeat customer.


Wow! Good score :) There are a lot of artists i collected the majority of their canon before a box set emerged so they aren't always a better deal but for some artists like Cassiber which i own NO albums from, a box set at only $50 is a true score! That's four studio albums and two live ones. Chuh ching!!!

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I was about to get The Cassiber Box, but Wayside refunded me because they didn't have it in stock. 


Just ordered it! Found a cheaper selection on Discogs.

I actually found all five of their studio albums for sale at RéR for £5 each and free shipping, so I went with that instead of getting the box set. I tacked on two Stevan Tickmayer albums while I was at it, someone I haven't ever listened to before but the descriptions sounded like I might like his stuff. 

I'm actually rather surprised they offer free shipping to the U.S. from the U.K. Not sure how they're able to do that, but if this purchase goes through OK, I may be a repeat customer.
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Originally posted by PaulG PaulG wrote:

I used to have a lot of box sets. Someone stole a large majority of my cd and all of my vinyl circa 2011 timeframe.  

Man, that's a heart-breaking story. So sorry to hear about it.

Vaguely reminds me of when I worked in a record store in the late 80s. I had just started there and I noticed one guy who came in every day and I asked my co-workers about him. Turns out he had a massive jazz lp collection (tons of original pressings). His house caught fire and he lost most of his collection. Apparently he received a good amount of insurance money, so he was coming in to the store to try and replace his collection (now on CD), but he was also just trying to remember what he had in the lost collection (this is really prior to the internet).

Good luck rebuilding the collection. Great list of boxes you've noted here.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I was about to get The Cassiber Box, but Wayside refunded me because they didn't have it in stock. 


Just ordered it! Found a cheaper selection on Discogs.

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1st off - Welcome to the discussions forums @PaulG'

2nd - I'll discuss your post in a second, But I just wanted to offer some advice on posting. Take it or leave, your choice. When composing a large post, it can be helpful to the readers to have paragraphs to follow as opposed to one long block of text.

3rd - re: your comment about loosing your music to theft. I can completely empathize with you.

When I was in high school (grade 10, 1972) our school let students create taped radio shows to be played in the cafeteria during lunch periods. There were only about 5 student in the whole school who had any interest in doing it and 3 of them were A/V Club geeks. That left me and a buddy of mine who were the progheads back then to do shows of our own.
So, the very first time I was scheduled to tape my show (the day before broadcast) I brought in almost all my albums, about 60 at the time. I stored them in a cupboard in my English classroom (with the teacher's approval) until the end of the day since it was my first period.
Well, when I went back to get them at 3:30pm they were all gone. Every single one of them. It was a truly gut-wrenching realization. Of course the school bore no responsibility so I was left with nothing more than my dick in my hand for my efforts.
I've never let an album out of my house since. It took me a little over a year and a half to build my collection up again.
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After a bunch of great suggestions here on PA and on RYM my list has become pretty impressive!

I wish i owned everything on it!!!!

Yeah, i do love those cheap original series boxes just because it's a great way to get an entire disco or at least a partial disco of an artist in one fell swoop!


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I used to have a lot of box sets. Someone stole a large majority of my cd and all of my vinyl circa 2011 timeframe. I was a big collector of everything a band I liked came out with. I had a lot of box sets on cd I’m sure won’t be re-released at least not in the same bit format and packaging. A lot of these were released at the height of the compact discs redbook format popularity so unreplaceable at least in original format. Must have been well over 200 box sets in multiple as 4 or more format. A combination of progressive rock and classic rock. I’m not as into collecting box sets now. Still, I would love to have these box sets still in my collection. I’m currently still replacing cds that went missing. I’m almost there with Prog as this is my first love. Classic rock and jazz fusion has a ways to go. I’m always buying new or new to me Prog releases too. Maybe I’ll get to the box sets yet I doubt it and it’s just not that important to me now. I used to be able to pick them up cheap via BMG too. I also had some imported from Europe and England. Oh well. I can comment on a few that survived this plus a few I picked up since. King Crimson The Great Deceiver is my favorite. The Genesis remasters and DVD audios of the Gabriel era is another essential. I picked up Uriah Heep You Can’t Keep a Good Band Down for the classics remastered and in mini lp format. These are minus the sleeve notes. One that survived is The Genesis Archives 67-75. One I picked up special order is “Un Biglietto Per L’Inferno.”    I ordered Deep Purple’s Listen Learn Read On years ago from Great Britain. I like the live cuts. The remakes/alternate takes bore me as most do. Another Italian release is Maxaphone’s From Cacoon to Butterfy. This one is only a two disc release. One of the nicest redone complete studios is Led Zeppelin The Complete Studio Recordings. The whole format is excellent. Recently picked up Atomic Rooster Sleeping For Years and Renaissance Live At Carnegie Hall both in clamshell. The Renaissance is incredible. A lot of extra live material. I bought the Atomic Rooster to replace the first two releases.   I also bought the new Tull Benifit 50th anniversary. Again I went all out on this for replacement of stolen 1 cd original. This is a six disc release. The Steven Wilson remasters are ear opening to say the least. I guess you could call the Djam Karet 3 cd reissue of Burning the Hard City and Suspension and Displacement a mini box set. It’s a limited edition too. Not bad. I got the recent Vander Graaf 3cd releases of Godbluff and Still Life in Lew of the whole box set. I have the other classic era Vander Graaf releases already and replaced these two that went missing. Might as well get the live bonus tracks and high def versions as replacements. I had the original Vander Graaf The Black Box. This is not available for me to replace, at least new. I’m thinking of getting the rest of the Renaissance clamshell reissue’s just for the large selection of live material included and the excellent price. Any box sets now are for unreleased live material or for releases needing replacement or I don’t have. Again I don’t want everything a band has to offer anymore. There’s to much new material I don’t have to enjoy. Im not rich either. If it’s already in my collection on original release I don’t need it. Unless it has been remastered as to make significant sonic difference or has a lot of previously unavailable live material. Keep on Progin my friends.
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I'd say the ELO box set Flashback is worth having.
And so is Yes -  In a Word.
I'd definitely say all the Marillion box sets are worth having.
And now for something completely not prog, the Adam Ant Box set -  Ant Box is well worth having.

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BTW, there were neat boxset from Culture Factory USA about bands like Jeffesrson Airplane, Hot Tuna and Quicksilver Messenger Service (the latter should be in PA some day)
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/comp/quicksilver-messenger-service/the-cd-vinyl-replica-collection-boxset/
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https://culturefactory-usa.com/product/hot-tuna-cd-cd-vinyl-replica-collection-boxset/
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The King Crimson boxes are really something special.
I haven't bought any of the boxes focused on a single album (ITCOTCK, LTIA and Thrak), since that's less my kind of thing, so I don't have anything to say about those.

However, all of the live collections really are quite stellar. Sailors Tales can be rather raw, but it gives you a great window on the Islands/Earthbound era of the band; plenty of interesting jams. At the other end of the chronology, Heaven and Earth is insanely exhaustive--including hundreds of shows by the various Projekts--that casts so much light on the Construktion of Light and Power to Believe era of the band. On (and Off) the Road puts in one box everything you could want from the 1980s quartet. When it comes to the mid-70s era, and when push comes to shove, I'd say the best box of all of them is Starless. Here you get all of the Great Deceiver stuff plus so much more. This is my favourite incarnation of the band and every disc features a number of improvisations so that each night's show is often radically different. That's a must own to me. 


I'm not sure what Puppy's intentions are in the RYM list, but if we start going down the single album expanded /sessions boxsets, but then every Tull & Crimson (& others) album boxset could be entered.
Sure, you got a point with Sailor's tale which "includes" three albums (Lizard as well)
In the same thought, I would rule out all of the 3 or 5 "classic" albums cheapie boxsets (they started out mainly as a BCS/Soony  idea, but spread out to every major label.


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Originally posted by questionsneverknown questionsneverknown wrote:

The King Crimson boxes are really something special.
I haven't bought any of the boxes focused on a single album (ITCOTCK, LTIA and Thrak), since that's less my kind of thing, so I don't have anything to say about those.

However, all of the live collections really are quite stellar. Sailors Tales can be rather raw, but it gives you a great window on the Islands/Earthbound era of the band; plenty of interesting jams. At the other end of the chronology, Heaven and Earth is insanely exhaustive--including hundreds of shows by the various Projekts--that casts so much light on the Construktion of Light and Power to Believe era of the band. On (and Off) the Road puts in one box everything you could want from the 1980s quartet. When it comes to the mid-70s era, and when push comes to shove, I'd say the best box of all of them is Starless. Here you get all of the Great Deceiver stuff plus so much more. This is my favourite incarnation of the band and every disc features a number of improvisations so that each night's show is often radically different. That's a must own to me. 

I've got Road to Red which is very interesting and does what it says on the tin (well box actually)

Also have Heaven and Earth and purchased it when it first came out but yet to to take off the sellophane wrapper. I knows that sounds a bit mad but I'm very happy to have it and saving it for when I've got more time to devote to it.
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If you're a RUSH fan then I highly recommend the excellent Sector box sets they put out in 2011. Great sounding remasters of their 1970s to late 1980s output plus a nice booklet in each one. 
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These are absolutely worthwhile...
  • King Crimson - The Great Deceiver
  • Tangerine Dream - In Search of Hades
  • Magma - Kohnzert Zund
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^ i've been salivating over the Cassiber box for a while

Guess i'll inquire before i place my order on Wayside

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I tend to only buy these when the box set is a better deal than buying the individual CDs. Off the top of my head, I own these...

Pink Floyd - Shine One
--I just switched from LPs/cassettes to CDs at the time I found this - it was marked down to $100
Blue Effect 1969-1989
--At the time I think some of the titles in their discography were out of print and prohibitively expensive
Clepsydra - 3654 Days
--bought for the same reason as the Blue Effect box, plus it was a limited edition signed by the band
Nick Mason - Unattended Luggage
--this was bought on a whim mostly
Finch - Mythology
--again, cheaper than buying the individual titles

I was about to get The Cassiber Box, but Wayside refunded me because they didn't have it in stock. 


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Alright! I added a whole bunch more.

Wow. Some of these that i didn't know about are impressive.

Gotta get my filthy paws on a few of those Big smile


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^Oops! I already contributed this.
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