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Poll Question: Which song you prefer
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FatherChristmas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2020 at 10:32
Originally posted by Olape Olape wrote:

Seven Stones +1
Cinema show
Stagnation
Watcher
Entangled

I like all of them.
Surely 8 stones then? LOL
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Watcher of the Skies
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twosteves Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2020 at 11:00
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Point two - I agree, SEBTP, Duke, Foxtrot, and a few other Genesis albums could be concept albums.
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Get the others but --why Foxtrot? 
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Cinema Show
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Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Point two - I agree, SEBTP, Duke, Foxtrot, and a few other Genesis albums could be concept albums.

Get the others but --why Foxtrot? 
Same sort of thing as SEBTP, accept Foxtrot is more themed on England's past, wheras SEBTP was about England at the present (when it was released, anyway).
Watcher of the Skies - about a John Keats poem. Great intro.
Time Table - a lament about how old England deteriorated through constant war.
Get 'Em Out By Friday - about corrupt property developers. Admittedly, this seems more SEBTP than Foxtrot, but actually it's been happening since property development and renting flats began in the 12th century.
Can-utility and the Coastliners - about the legendary king Cnut (or Canute).
Horizons - instrumental, no comment
Supper's Ready - who knows? But there are a lot of allusions to old England in there - and, funnily enough, the Book of Revelation from the Bible.

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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Stagnation. Absolutely fascinating song.

Maybe you should vote for it then? Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2020 at 02:05
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Watcher of the Skies - about a John Keats poem. Great intro.
 
 
Really? I thought it was about aliens.
 
EDIT - so the title comes from a Keats poem but the lyrics are about aliens looking down on a deserted Earth.


Edited by chopper - September 04 2020 at 02:07
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Watcher of the Skies - about a John Keats poem. Great intro.
 
 
Really? I thought it was about aliens.
 
EDIT - so the title comes from a Keats poem but the lyrics are about aliens looking down on a deserted Earth.
An impact of New Wave science fiction is obvious.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HackettFan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2020 at 12:57
Entangled. But I would vote Stagnation perhaps the next time I'm asked.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2020 at 23:32
Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

The Cinema Show. The other songs here are good choices, but they just don't have the complexity of Cinema Show, which was originally part of a 20-minute suite with DWtMK and Aisle of Plenty. 


Was it?
I mean, I've heard The Cinema Show was conceived as a ~20 minute epic piece, but they ultimately decided against it in order to fit After the Ordeal and appease Hackett. If it was meant to be played with Dancing with the Moonlit Knight, it's already 20 minutes, so why was it cut & split in the first place? Just wondering what's the real story behind it.

To avoid comparisons to Supper's Ready. That was, I think the main reason. It was the same reason they cancelled the Duke suite, and a few others too. I ran a thread on the subject a while ago:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=123788
I actually think it was a more strategic idea to have one, uncontested masterpiece, than what for example Yes and Rush did (make loads of possible masterpieces), so people argue about which was the best one all the time.


If it was actually thought about being made an epic like that, the why the hell didn't they? For comparisons to Supper's Ready? What's with them and their fear of comparisons being made with that song... this other epic would have given it a good run for it's money... it might even have ended up being my favourite of the two.
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The Cinema Show.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FatherChristmas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2020 at 05:03
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Watcher of the Skies - about a John Keats poem. Great intro.
 
 
Really? I thought it was about aliens.
 
EDIT - so the title comes from a Keats poem but the lyrics are about aliens looking down on a deserted Earth.
So we were both right.
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

The Cinema Show. The other songs here are good choices, but they just don't have the complexity of Cinema Show, which was originally part of a 20-minute suite with DWtMK and Aisle of Plenty. 
 

Was it?
I mean, I've heard The Cinema Show was conceived as a ~20 minute epic piece, but they ultimately decided against it in order to fit After the Ordeal and appease Hackett. If it was meant to be played with Dancing with the Moonlit Knight, it's already 20 minutes, so why was it cut & split in the first place? Just wondering what's the real story behind it.

To avoid comparisons to Supper's Ready. That was, I think the main reason. It was the same reason they cancelled the Duke suite, and a few others too. I ran a thread on the subject a while ago:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=123788
I actually think it was a more strategic idea to have one, uncontested masterpiece, than what for example Yes and Rush did (make loads of possible masterpieces), so people argue about which was the best one all the time.
 

If it was actually thought about being made an epic like that, the why the hell didn't they? For comparisons to Supper's Ready? What's with them and their fear of comparisons being made with that song... this other epic would have given it a good run for it's money... it might even have ended up being my favourite of the two.
Well, like I said, I think it was a more strategic idea to have one, uncontested masterpiece, leaving us to argue endlessly about it. Slightly ironic, really, since all the people who didn't comment on my Genesis Hidden Suites thread are now talking about the subject.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Scorpius Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2020 at 19:31
stagnation for sure. the instrumental section in the middle of that song is one of the most brilliant arrangements to come from Gabriel-Era genesis and its probably the best song on Trespass next to The Knife.  
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Seven Stones needs a vote. Tongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frets N Worries Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2023 at 10:40
Cinema Show

'Cause it's only knock and know all, but I like it...

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Watcher of the Skies
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Another vote for Watcher Of The Skies. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2023 at 10:56
Went for Cinema Show. I'm not sure if WotS is even in my top ten. 
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Cinema Show. Everywhere I go they hand me bags of socks.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Everywhere I go they hand me bags of socks.

Lucky you! LOL
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