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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I could assume that that is Paul The Stealth Jihadist in the back of that truck, but the one with the pot with vegetables on the head would be more stealthy.
A "Technical" is the vehicle of choice whenever a Jihadi needs to take a trip down to the grocery store in downtown Timbuktu. Smile


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when I think of technical I think live music---you can make anything sound perfect in a studio--Wakeman is a perfect technical guy so is Banks live---Emerson and Moraz not as perfect---I remember Sting making a comment that Genesis never makes a technical mistake live.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

The correct term is indeed technical death metal.  I have never heard 'just' technical metal.
Maybe Bandcamp will help you to refresh your memory: technical metal
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

When you Google "technical rock" you get one direct reference (@last.fm). That's it. That's all you get.
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

When you Google "technical rock" you get one direct reference (@last.fm). That's it. That's all you get.
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Believe it or not, but that actually doesn't help your cause. There are only nine albums on Bandcamp with that tag. There are over five millions albums on Bandcamp.

There are more albums on Bandcamp tagged poop rock:
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Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

I remember Sting making a comment that Genesis never makes a technical mistake live.

Which is why they're performances often lacked soul.

'Technical' to me would be an emphasis on a cerebral approach to music, using the brain more than the spirit.  Nothing wrong with that at all, I love technical music.   But the human factor, the room for instinct and mistake-making, is vital to something like rock or jazz.   The best guitar players exhibit both, e.g. Jeff Beck, McLaughlin, Page, Hendrix, Uli Roth, EVH, Randy Rhoads, SRV, Holdsworth, etc.




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Technical means to me technological without olog. Do you know olog? A very advanced robot type. Cool

Seriously though, technical means what it says. As for me, it should connote that, "that" technicality has some special aspects; like stuff done by utilizing and mastering effective techniques, which are hard to have down cold and require some significant talent. Otherwise, every kind of playing and singing can be labelled as "technical"; and it would be pointlelss to state, let alone coin/label that. Also, some musicians have virtually unique techniques. I personally wouldn't call their music "technical", unless their music is focused on reflecting the technical side over the melodic, emotional etc. quality. In other words, if one is not extravagantly showcasing his/her technical prowess, I wouldn't prefer to call their music technical, albeit except for mentioning while analyzing the music's constituents/elements.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

When you Google "technical rock" you get one direct reference (@last.fm). That's it. That's all you get.
omfg! Shocked



Believe it or not, but that actually doesn't help your cause. There are only nine albums on Bandcamp with that tag. There are over five millions albums on Bandcamp.

There are more albums on Bandcamp tagged poop rock:


Actually, it's more hilarious than that -- there are less than nine. If you look at the 9 selections, 5 of them are by the same band. That's not a genre, that's a Thursday open mic night with no cover charge. LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

Once again, Svetonio bringing ramen noodles to a gun fight. But I am sure Svetty has all the poop rock albums in his collection.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

When you Google "technical rock" you get one direct reference (@last.fm). That's it. That's all you get.
omfg! Shocked



Believe it or not, but that actually doesn't help your cause. There are only nine albums on Bandcamp with that tag. There are over five millions albums on Bandcamp.
Actually, I don't deny that the term is (almost) extinct. However, the term was in use in the 70's, and here and there the tag "technical" is used even today.

From Progarchives:
"1980 is a technical prog metal band from France. Their music is entirely instrumental, and displays a wide array of influences from bands such as Meshuggah" link

1980 - "Amicalement Votre" (2007)
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

When you Google "technical rock" you get one direct reference (@last.fm). That's it. That's all you get.
omfg! Shocked



Believe it or not, but that actually doesn't help your cause. There are only nine albums on Bandcamp with that tag. There are over five millions albums on Bandcamp.

There are more albums on Bandcamp tagged poop rock:


Actually, it's more hilarious than that -- there are less than nine. If you look at the 9 selections, 5 of them are by the same band. That's not a genre, that's a Thursday open mic night with no cover charge. LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

Once again, Svetonio bringing ramen noodles to a gun fight. But I am sure Svetty has all the poop rock albums in his collection.
Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Actually, I don't deny that the term is (almost) extinct. However, the term was in use in the 70's, and here and there the tag "technical" is used even today.

From Progarchives:
"1980 is a technical prog metal band from France. Their music is entirely instrumental, and displays a wide array of influences from bands such as Meshuggah" link

Now it's suddenly changed to "technical prog metal"? You can't even stay on topic. Tech/Extreme Prog Metal is a progressive rock music sub-genre on PA. Like Meshuggah. 

Give it up, Babaloo.LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
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Oh and I almost forgot to mention this album-title that brilliantly describes music.





Black Sabbath - "Gypsy" (1976)
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

The correct term is indeed technical death metal.  I have never heard 'just' technical metal.
Maybe Bandcamp will help you to refresh your memory: technical metal

Dude, that's a TAG.  A TAG. T-A-G.  Not a genre.  And that tag is one of multiple tags given to bands so it has zero meaning. 

Take a look at one of the bands tagged as technical metal, Pangaea. 


They describe themselves as progressive metal.  Are you going to go to Wisconsin to tell them they are wrong and don't know sh*t?  Yes, you would, because you are svetty the uber moron. 

Now look at the tags there: death metal, metal, metalcore, technical metal, djent, heavy metal, progressive metal, technical death metal, Wisconsin.

Yeah, I am sure Wisconsin is a genre because bandcamp tagged this band with Wisconsin.
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

When you Google "technical rock" you get one direct reference (@last.fm). That's it. That's all you get.
omfg! Shocked



Believe it or not, but that actually doesn't help your cause. There are only nine albums on Bandcamp with that tag. There are over five millions albums on Bandcamp.
Actually, I don't deny that the term is (almost) extinct. However, the term was in use in the 70's, and here and there the tag "technical" is used even today.

From Progarchives:
"1980 is a technical prog metal band from France. Their music is entirely instrumental, and displays a wide array of influences from bands such as Meshuggah" link

1980 - "Amicalement Votre" (2007)




Moron, moron, moron!  Nobody said technical is not used as a prefix in metal genres.  I literally said that in the post you quoted without, as usual, reading it.  The correct usage, if you bothered to understand, is always technical progressive metal or technical death metal.  Metal is the umbrella term, like rock.  Death/progressive/power/black/thrash describe the sub genre. Technical is simply an additional prefix.  You could have technical death metal (Cryptopsy) or brutal death metal (Suffocation) or old school death metal (Dismember).  But we don't say technical metal.  Again, why don't you get out there into the real world, go to a metal concert and ask folks what is technical metal?  They will immediately ask you whether you mean technical death metal or something else?  Just technical metal by itself is a useless term.
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Oh and I almost forgot to mention this album-title that brilliantly describes music.




You do realize the album title "Technical Ecstasy" has nothing at all to do with the music, right? It was about the cover, or as Ozzy Osbourne put it, "two robots screwing on an escalator".Wink


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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Oh and I almost forgot to mention this album-title that brilliantly describes music.




You do realize the album title "Technical Ecstasy" has nothing at all to do with the music, right? It was about the cover, or as Ozzy Osbourne put it, "two robots screwing on an escalator".Wink

All fun and games when the big ego self-destructs and owns himself due to his refusal to simply concede and move on.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

When you Google "technical rock" you get one direct reference (@last.fm). That's it. That's all you get.
omfg! Shocked



Believe it or not, but that actually doesn't help your cause. There are only nine albums on Bandcamp with that tag. There are over five millions albums on Bandcamp.
Actually, I don't deny that the term is (almost) extinct. However, the term was in use in the 70's, and here and there the tag "technical" is used even today.

From Progarchives:
"1980 is a technical prog metal band from France. Their music is entirely instrumental, and displays a wide array of influences from bands such as Meshuggah" link

1980 - "Amicalement Votre" (2007)




Moron, moron, moron!  Nobody said technical is not used as a prefix in metal genres.  I literally said that in the post you quoted without, as usual, reading it.  The correct usage, if you bothered to understand, is always technical progressive metal or technical death metal.  Metal is the umbrella term, like rock.  Death/progressive/power/black/thrash describe the sub genre. Technical is simply an additional prefix.  You could have technical death metal (Cryptopsy) or brutal death metal (Suffocation) or old school death metal (Dismember).  But we don't say technical metal.  Again, why don't you get out there into the real world, go to a metal concert and ask folks what is technical metal?  They will immediately ask you whether you mean technical death metal or something else?  Just technical metal by itself is a useless term.
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

When you Google "technical rock" you get one direct reference (@last.fm). That's it. That's all you get.
omfg! Shocked



Believe it or not, but that actually doesn't help your cause. There are only nine albums on Bandcamp with that tag. There are over five millions albums on Bandcamp.
Actually, I don't deny that the term is (almost) extinct. However, the term was in use in the 70's, and here and there the tag "technical" is used even today.

From Progarchives:
"1980 is a technical prog metal band from France. Their music is entirely instrumental, and displays a wide array of influences from bands such as Meshuggah" link

1980 - "Amicalement Votre" (2007)




Moron, moron, moron!  Nobody said technical is not used as a prefix in metal genres.  I literally said that in the post you quoted without, as usual, reading it.  The correct usage, if you bothered to understand, is always technical progressive metal or technical death metal.  Metal is the umbrella term, like rock.  Death/progressive/power/black/thrash describe the sub genre. Technical is simply an additional prefix.  You could have technical death metal (Cryptopsy) or brutal death metal (Suffocation) or old school death metal (Dismember).  But we don't say technical metal.  Again, why don't you get out there into the real world, go to a metal concert and ask folks what is technical metal?  They will immediately ask you whether you mean technical death metal or something else?  Just technical metal by itself is a useless term.
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10 essential tech metal albums

By Sophie Maughan (Metal Hammer) June 01, 2020

Tech metal is the very definition of order in chaos, and here are 10 albums that prove it

Back to your favourite strategy.  First it was NME, now Metal Hammer.  Anyway, my patience is not infinite.  You can go on posting random links. You embarrassed yourself badly by posting a bandcamp tag so that's the end of it.  You don't even know the context and are just randomly searching references of the term. 
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

When you Google "technical rock" you get one direct reference (@last.fm). That's it. That's all you get.
omfg! Shocked



Believe it or not, but that actually doesn't help your cause. There are only nine albums on Bandcamp with that tag. There are over five millions albums on Bandcamp.
Actually, I don't deny that the term is (almost) extinct. However, the term was in use in the 70's, and here and there the tag "technical" is used even today.

From Progarchives:
"1980 is a technical prog metal band from France. Their music is entirely instrumental, and displays a wide array of influences from bands such as Meshuggah" link

1980 - "Amicalement Votre" (2007)




Moron, moron, moron!  Nobody said technical is not used as a prefix in metal genres.  I literally said that in the post you quoted without, as usual, reading it.  The correct usage, if you bothered to understand, is always technical progressive metal or technical death metal.  Metal is the umbrella term, like rock.  Death/progressive/power/black/thrash describe the sub genre. Technical is simply an additional prefix.  You could have technical death metal (Cryptopsy) or brutal death metal (Suffocation) or old school death metal (Dismember).  But we don't say technical metal.  Again, why don't you get out there into the real world, go to a metal concert and ask folks what is technical metal?  They will immediately ask you whether you mean technical death metal or something else?  Just technical metal by itself is a useless term.
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10 essential tech metal albums

By Sophie Maughan (Metal Hammer) June 01, 2020

Tech metal is the very definition of order in chaos, and here are 10 albums that prove it

Back to your favourite strategy.  First it was NME, now Metal Hammer.  Anyway, my patience is not infinite.  You can go on posting random links. You embarrassed yourself badly by posting a bandcamp tag so that's the end of it.  You don't even know the context and are just randomly searching references of the term. 
Bloody hell!! How many ignorants these days! Why they don't consult @rogerthat before they start to write about metal?!Shocked

Top 10 tech metal tracks as chosen by Harbinger

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London's fledging hardcore tech metallers, Harbinger, countdown their top 10 ultimate songs in the world of technical metal
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For me technical means a focus on the skills involved with the instrument and not so much the feel or melodic content. Imo, Al Di Meola is an example of a technical player. 
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Oh and I almost forgot to mention this album-title that brilliantly describes music.




You do realize the album title "Technical Ecstasy" has nothing at all to do with the music, right? It was about the cover, or as Ozzy Osbourne put it, "two robots screwing on an escalator".Wink
I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you again.That illustration was created after the album title.

The cover art was designed by Hipgnosis. Osbourne once described it as "two robots screwing on an escalator". Hipgnosis' Storm Thorgerson, who had been assisted by graphic designer George Hardie, discussed the cover with Zoom magazine in 1979:  "We're very fond of that cover. From the title of the piece, Technical Ecstasy, I thought of something ecstatic rather than something technical, and I immediately thought of ecstasy in sexual terms: some sort of mechanical copulation, which would be tricky to do.

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In 1992, Iommi admitted to Guitar World: "Black Sabbath fans generally don't like much of Technical Ecstasy. It was really a no-win situation for us. If we had stayed the same, people would have said we were still doing the same old stuff. So we tried to get a little more technical, and it just didn’t work out very well.





edit: Still my favourite Sabbath's record, though.


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