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45 and 38 are very commonly known factors, at least to me.

Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Glen Matlock, talking about the break-up of The Sex Pistols, said:- "It wasn't in our destiny to have a progressive phase where we made a folk record and went on tour with Barclay James Harvest". LOL

They had an humoristic phase, though!

Number 45

The Drama album story told there made me sad (for lack of a better word). Were Yes fans so narrowminded back then?! Or the media of the time?! I get it the tour didn't work, but the album was not successful either which is strange to me.

Hi,

Not only is it funny, it also shows how much the music industry was so out of it, because they wanted to make sure they kept their money ... and never thought there was more money to be made.

The Beatles thing is famous ... no long hairs, and nearly the same thing happened to The Rolling Stones, but when the Beatles busted out of the gate, many folks wanted immediately something else, and the Rolling Stones were ready ... well, I would think that The Kinks were "readier" but their material was not anything new, even though it had a lot of funny moments and stuff. Very English.

Will the stuck up upper class in England ever learn? Nahhhhh ... they will continue with the nice photos and media crunch of the King and the pair behind him! This way you ignore all the sh*t they leave behind! Reminds me of the film with Helen Mirren about the Queen during the ending credits ... it allows a small doggie to take a pit stop and poop. It says it all, really!

Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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The reality of Mountain and Canned Heat were far from being charismatic ..but still appreciated musically by the mass was attributed to the mindset of the youth.

When Woodstock turned into a financial disaster ..Larry Maggot had a realization that if the idea of massive crowds could be tried again by using stadiums..that he could make a fortune. . He basically controlled Electric Factory Concerts. More bands began appearing in stadiums. The Fillmore East and West closed down .

In the 60s you could see Pink Floyd at the Electric Factory. The audience and band were more friendly. If Syd Barrett or David Gilmour ..or Jimi Hendrix walked off the stage they might say hello to you and there was not a nazi type of dividing point between the audience and the artist.

With stadiums...the band were distant and not reachable. The youth began treating Rock stars iconic. Larry Maggot had a lot to do with influencing society to believe that Rock bands were untouchable. It wasn't always like that with every band in the 60s. Nevertheless he took that away. In the mid 80s The Who played a concert in Cincinnati Ohio. He was too cheap to hire enough security to open all the doors of the arena. So a hundred thousand kids converged on 2 doors and 11 people were crushed to death. All to save money. The next day on the news..the blame was placed on The Who for influencing kids badly. It was all about money..

Edited by Jacob Schoolcraft - December 05 2022 at 21:31

Peter Grant never forgave himself for not booking Zeppelin for Woodstock

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Cristi wrote:

Number 45

The Drama album story told there made me sad (for lack of a better word). Were Yes fans so narrowminded back then?! Or the media of the time?! I get it the tour didn't work, but the album was not successful either which is strange to me.

I found quite revealing this documentary:

Source: http://www.mellotronweb.com.ar/

Re: Yes Drama Tour

Everything I've heard about this tour said there were no real problems in the USA. The problems started and ended when the band toured the UK. The American fans were far more accepting of Horn and Downes than the British fans. Funny that the article quoted Rick Wakeman, who of course was not there, but was told about it by Chris Squire much later.

Awesoreno wrote:

Well it seems the article was more criticizing the tour itself. There isn't much said about the album.

They imply bringing Trevor and Geoff in the band was a mistake in the first place. Maybe I'm wrong...

The Drama album reached #2 in the British charts and #18 in the US charts, so considering the line up change it did pretty good in my opinion.

I am sure though for some Yes fans to see someone other than Jon singing would be quite a shock (if only they knew what was to come)

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