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moshkito
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Hi, Heck ... it might be worth it when the used copies show at at Amadxon ... for $2.99 each. I would buy it then, but I had for a long time over 20 Beatles bootlegs, and I have YET to hear anything that I had not heard in the bootlegs many years ago ... and for us to think that it is new ... is a way of rejecting the actual history of it all in my book! I imagine that for almost everyone here, this is all "new" ... but it ain't and never will be! The interpretation, sure, but not the actual music. The only thing that bothers me, is the inability to let the actual moment to live on its own, and instead it has to be "redone" and "re-this" and "re-that", so they can sell it as if it were something new. I honestly do not think there is anything new that Paul or Ringo can show us anymore, and I'm getting kinda tired of their rehashes ...
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No I don't think it was followed by a laugh... maybe a cynical grin. You don't become one of the most important songwriting teams in history without very high standards. I don't think George Harrison liked every George Harrison song or wanted to record something he thought was not good enough, and he felt the same toward his band mates. |
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I thought this was nicely done. I like it better than those previous two singles from 1995. No offense to Jeff Lynne, and I appreciate the effort he made to make those into something given what they were working with, but they reminded me more of the Traveling Wilburys than the Beatles.
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Over produced, but a nice addition to the Beatles canon
I do prefer the original Lennon demo, which have the excellent "I dont wanna loose you" theme intact
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Agree.. They could have used the technology to get rid of some hiss, but to also isolate the vocals and piano.
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Oh, I don't know. I think John saying "I'd like to thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves, and I hope we passed the audition." at the end of "Let it Be" is great. Not only is it a little dig at the whole idea of the rooftop performance, but it could also be taken as a sardonic wrap-up of The Beatles whole career. Edited by Hugh Manatee - November 08 2023 at 20:17 |
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Hugh Manatee
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Well, having heard the song I can only come away feeling totally underwhelmed.
If this song did not have the magic talisman of The Beatles name attached to it I would think it would pass by relatively unnoticed (even if it was a new McCartney song). Ah nostalgia. It always was The Beatles' trump card. |
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Saperlipopette!
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If they have had enough faith in Now and Then back when they was fab, it wouldn't have ended up as conventional-sounding as this. It's the kind of uninventive arrangement I would expect from Oasis or some modern mainstream rock band. Like a less talented gang of four who loves The Beatles very much. Basic, boring drums that I actually find very annoying and a super predictable composition, where nothing really happens. They just add stuff, like a (nice) guitar part and strings. None of which are horrible or anything. But it doesn't really introduce or add anything interesting or meaningful - like you know it always would have in 1966-1969. I much prefer The Rutles to this.
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The Beatles set record 54-year gap between No 1 singles as Now and Then tops UK chart |
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“If there were ever any doubts that the Beatles are the greatest band of all time, they have surely consigned them to history this week.”
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Listening to 'Free as a Bird' and it is a brilliant cut, as good as almost anything they ever recorded. And 'Real Love' ain't bad at all, both with superb guitar from George, very reasonable breaks from Paul and Ringo's just-behind-the-beat drum track. 'Now and Then', not so much.
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siLLy puPPy
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^ i totally agree but it does show how the hunger for The Beatles is still strong some 60 years later. Not a #1 worthy song IMHO but then again not much is these days in the world of pop music.
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moshkito
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Hi, For GH, I don't think there was such a thing as good, or better, In terms of his "religious" standing, it would all be about the very moment it happened that mattered, not before or after, thus him liking or disliking something would seem to be slightly off base. I rather think that unlike Paul and John, GH was probably the first that didn't care what anyone thought of his music. He just did it, and that was that ... and you might even remember that he even put together an electronic album ... as a way to teach himself something else, and sadly, he did not continue that at all, and I think him having to play "hits" and not exactly appreciated for being the experimental person he wanted to be, might, in the end, be the bigger problem. Hard to tell, but you can see in "Let It Be" that he was, almost always, on a different wavelength, but he was good enough (and probably professional enough) to contribute to what was being done.
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To me, for someone like George Harrison, Electronic Sound comes across as something he had to get out of his system. Except for the fact that it was made by a Beatle it's completely unremakable and about as interesting as me releasing an album where I'm toying around with a trumpet, a cembalo - or some other instrument I haven't taught myself to play. It didn't even need to be released as an album imo. I'm glad there's only the one. Edited by Saperlipopette! - November 15 2023 at 13:52 |
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^Actually, it's worse than that.
The first side comprising "No Time or Space" wasn't even by Harrison, but the editing down of a demonstration done by Bernie Krauss (recorded and released without Krauss' knowledge or permission). |
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That it was, though it was in actuality the B side. I love and respect George and the often brilliant takes on early electronica he had but "No Time Or Space" is indeed the mostly ripped off demonstration of the Moog's versatility.
As to "Now and Then" I love both the lo-fi demo and the new sort of "full band" version. Paul and Ringo did an excellent job of cleaning up and building on John's original version, making it a sort of late Beatles pop cut that might fit on Abbey Road more or less. I as an audio engineer remain in awe of how far musical restorative tech has come to give us "Now and Then" as we now know it, which is not simply a job from iZotope's RX 10 which I'm familiar with but a product of Peter Jackson's own unique tool?! I'm not only pleased but fascinated and humbled by the track we've received, aside from how atrocious the associated music video is.
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