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    Posted: May 27 2024 at 10:59
Michael has confirmed that ProgDay will take place Labor Day weekend as usual. First band announcement in a couple of weeks.

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Hi,

I hope/wish that these return, and that they start getting more attention ... however, in America, these are a problem due to the large distances, and the costs involved. I'm in Portland, and could make it to Seattle, but in my age, SF/LA would require that tuna boat flight that I tend to not enjoy much, specially the LAX runways which are horrible and probably have not been done in many years and feel like cobblestone roads!

The better issue is to sell streaming ... which has the bad rap that folks think it will be copied and will hurt the show ... this can easily be solved by having a CD released with it after the show, although many bands might not like it (usually the fatter ones!!!), but c'mon ... in the end, these bands are preventing these shows from coming alive.

The future, like it or not, is in streaming ... and for "progressive" to get a leg up on it, they need to start now, not after everyone else. All it takes is one band or two to come out of it really well, and strong, and the rest is history ... but the fear, is just that ... fear ... you have nothing to fear but the fear itself.

Sadly, this won't happen in my lifetime ... and all it shows is the hard hold that record/music companies have over the majority of the music delivery ... making sure folks don't do something that would otherwise destroy their numbers even more. I bet they dream of a Swift like show getting them millions, like Springsteen or the Stones can!

I imagine that a show would sell 4k, maybe 5k tickets, and within a streaming format you could get 5 to 10 more times that amount the world over ... and there is enough security minded work that can help folks not steal the material ... but in all honesty, I don't think the time of the bootleg is returning any time soon ... and stealing a show and then putting it up somewhere is gonna get those folks in legal trouble, since a tube or other site would not be stupid enough to put someone's video without having enough identifying information on the poster for legal reasons. You really think that anyone is gonna try to put up some Swift material somewhere? Think again! There are sharks armed and ready for that one!

The only thing I don't want to see, is a show like the 1999 SF Progressive Music Show which I bet Sean Ahearn (Pangea Music) lost more than likely around/over 100K ... and this was in 1999. Bad for the fans all around ... horrible in fact ... but he had the gumption of bringing MAGMA to America for the first time, not to mention a couple of other bands.


Edited by moshkito - May 28 2024 at 11:12
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I don't plan on going this year (maybe next year). Yes, I know I say that every year. Tongue
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

The only thing I don't want to see, is a show like the 1999 SF Progressive Music Show which I bet Sean Ahearn (Pangea Music) lost more than likely around/over 100K ... and this was in 1999. Bad for the fans all around ... horrible in fact ... but he had the gumption of bringing MAGMA to America for the first time, not to mention a couple of other bands.


Shawn made the mistake of moving ProgFest to the Bay Area because that's where he resided. After its failure, Greg took back the torch and held PF2K in L.A. (After that, a different committee assembled ProgWest in 2001 & 2002.)
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Pedro, There is a prog festival in Seattle, called Seaprog, lovely little festival though I believe currently on hiatus.

You've banged on about streaming before and I experienced in during the pandemic, it's not the same. I want to experience the bands right there in person.

This thread is about ProgDay please don't hijack it with more proselytizing.

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Man back when I was into prog Progday was always the festival I most wished I could make. Tons of bands I loved performed, and I just love the idea of an outdoor festival. 

Now I'm kind of out of touch with current trends in prog, and have young children so traveling without them is hard. But I wonder if one of these years I'll get to finally go and experience it ... maybe the kids will even come with, who knows. Although their tastes have not leant towards prog yet (neither away, they're young enough thankfully that they mostly listen to whatever I put on)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2024 at 10:42
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

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You've banged on about streaming before and I experienced in during the pandemic, it's not the same. I want to experience the bands right there in person.
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Hi,

The hope, and desire, is to find a way to expand the show ... so many of them have fallen by wayside, and the many I have attended, lacked fans big time, and I keep thinking that the distances make it really difficult for folks to get there ... and we end up not seeing as many/much of these bands as we could or should.

No one, wants to see them all in person, more than I do ... given how I have travelled with a couple of bands for photos and such and my having given away 5x7's from the shows to various band members (always did that !!!! All of Gong and the SF 1999 Festival got a full set of pics, that hopefully they were properly given to the musicians. 

But for me, just like that thread on bootlegs, I can FEEL the music behind it, so being "there" while really nice, is not as important for me ... the feeling and quality of the show is the part I live for the most. You know that!  

Hoping for the best ... and that it helps the music and the bands even more ... we want this to get bigger and better, I'm sure!
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