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frippertronik
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Topic: todd rundgrens utopia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted: October 20 2005 at 11:46 |
oh my god!!! what a band!!!!!!!! incredible, amazing. this guy is a genius. i really never heard nothing about this band. but it's one of the bests thing that i heard ever.
what do you think about it???
please, hear it!!!
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XTChuck
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 11:56 |
I'm assuming you're talking about this record. Yes, it is very good as was most of what Todd did up to that point and immediately after.
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Phil
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 11:57 |
Yup, they're great. Saw Rundgren at Knebworth with Led Zep in '79. A
very talented musician and producer; try "A Wizard A True Star" or
"Something/Anything".
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magog
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 11:58 |
My uncle recorded it to me about five years ago, but I've never liked
it so much...too electronic...my uncle was furious with me and my
ignorance
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slipperman
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 12:14 |
The first album is GOD (I've attached the cover to my profile since my very first post. One of my favorite albums ever). I was equally blown away as you when I heard it the first time. Couldn't believe it. 'Another Live' is uneven, and 'Ra' is great. After that I lose interest.
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raindance
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 12:38 |
Defineatly invest in 'RA'. It is criminal this album isn't in the top ten considering some of the rubbish that's in there!!!!
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bluetailfly
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 13:00 |
Oh yes, Utopia is a prog classic
The guitar solo near the end of "Utopia" is a sublime masterpiece.
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"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."
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Easy Livin
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 14:27 |
raindance wrote:
Defineatly invest in 'RA'. It is criminal this album isn't in the top ten considering some of the rubbish that's in there!!!! |
I agree, but I wouldn't say someone who likes the first album will definitely like Ra. They are really by two different bands, with Rundgren being the only link. Whereas it was very much a one man project for the first album, Ra is a much more of a band effort.
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Empathy
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 14:38 |
Todd's an incredible talent. If you can stand some electronica-ish
sounds, give No World Order a try. Some great songs, even if the
technology's a bit dated-sounding now.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 14:39 |
Easy Livin wrote:
raindance wrote:
Defineatly invest in 'RA'. It is criminal this album isn't in the top ten considering some of the rubbish that's in there!!!! |
I agree, but I wouldn't say someone who likes the first album will definitely like Ra. They are really by two different bands, with Rundgren being the only link. Whereas it was very much a one man project for the first album, Ra is a much more of a band effort.
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Agreed. Rundgren's Utopia never produced anything that approached the excellence of the first album with that particular line-up of musicians.
From the second (live) Utopia album onwards, the music was much more of a mixed bag, esp. due to the Kasim Sultan, Roger Wilcox or Roger Powell material. Just listen to Oops Wrong Planet to and any of the others to see what I mean. Even Ra, good as it is, is much lighter fare than the first album.
Utopia, after Ra, released disappointing LPs. They went the pop route; I wanted more.
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DEzerov
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 15:07 |
His latest offering, Liars, is absolutely brilliant. I highly recommend it.
Initiation is excellent, as are Wizard, A True Star, Second Wind and Nearly Human.
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ShW1
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 16:13 |
Indeed he is very talented musician.
I know only "utopia anothere live", (thats the correct name, isnt it?) i hope i'll get to the first album soon. "another live" is a good album, although not all the stuff is at the same level. but there are things like "another live", "mister triscuits" that are great, as the best prog stuff. i love also thier version to "Something 's Coming", "The wheel" is a great song, Todd performed it beutifully.
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Lorak
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 17:30 |
Todd Rundgren's Utopia is a timeless masterpiece. It sounds as good today as it did in the 70's.
Initiation and Faithful are my other two favorites. His covers on
Faithful are Faithful (even though it is not true prog, it does display
his level of talent) On Initiation, his one man band effort doing
'A Treaties on a Cosmic Fire' is interesting. I will not say
great, becuase it is clunky at spots, but with the technology of that
day, I have to give him credit for pulling it off.
Aloha progheads!
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bluetailfly
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 18:00 |
I like all Todd's stuff up to about 1980. I think "Todd" is my personal favorite (after "Utopia") because some stuff on that album is the most mesmerizing psychedelic music I've ever heard.
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"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."
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Trotsky
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 23:41 |
slipperman wrote:
'Another Live' is uneven, and 'Ra' is great. |
I agree with these two assessments by slipperman ... I can't help wishing that the best bits of the first three Utopia albums had been streamlined into one undeniable masterpiece ... (even if as Easy Livin' says, they were made by different bands)
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 23:44 |
Definitely agree that it is a mind blowing album...
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Dick Heath
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 06:03 |
XTChuck wrote:
I'm
assuming you're talking about this record. Yes, it is very good as was
most of what Todd did up to that point and immediately after.
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On hearing this album when originally released in the UK, I thought at
last there were signs America seriously picking up the prog reins
where Touch had left off 5 or
6 years before. On first hearing , thinking, too: hey Rundgren has put
a hard nosed American edge to Yes's sound. The subsequent album, Initiation with its mix of hardish rock (e.g. Death Of Rock 'n'Roll), near brilliant pop ( Real Man) and mystic prog (the whole of side two of the LP), is my favourite TR record.
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salmacis
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 07:19 |
Dick Heath wrote:
XTChuck wrote:
I'm assuming you're talking about this record. Yes, it is very good as was most of what Todd did up to that point and immediately after.
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On hearing this album when originally released in the UK, I thought at last there were signs America seriously picking up the prog reins where Touch had left off 5 or 6 years before. On first hearing , thinking, too: hey Rundgren has put a hard nosed American edge to Yes's sound. The subsequent album, Initiation with its mix of hardish rock (e.g. Death Of Rock 'n'Roll), near brilliant pop (Real Man) and mystic prog (the whole of side two of the LP), is my favourite TR record.
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I really love 'Utopia'- one of the few genuine American prog albums in this era. I find this fact odd, considering US bands like The Doors, Vanilla Fudge, Iron Butterfly and Touch laid some of the foundations for the whole genre.
However, I always considered 'Initiation' a step too far- I love 'Real Man', but 'Born To Synthesise' and 'A Treatise On Cosmic Fire' were representative of the worst excesses of prog for me. Yet, as someone once said, one man's ceiling is another man's floor.
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proger
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Posted: October 21 2005 at 09:23 |
"CIty In my head, Utopia"
wow, great band. but its hard to get their Cd's
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Ben2112
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Posted: October 23 2005 at 21:32 |
Moog-a-licious! Todd Rundgren's Utopia was one of my first prog purchases that was not Pink Floyd or Rush. It's still one of my top 10 or 20 albums ever. Brilliant!
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