Can and Magma overlooked?

Rashikal wrote: The fact that boring regressive neo-prog is ahead of MAGMA and CAN is seriously a disgrace. I thought this was a prog website!?

I would not be so harsh in this repect. I've got plenty of neo-prog in my collection, I know this subgenre quite well and I'm not overly excited by the whole stuff. Neo for me is rather simple, cheesy, melodic and very pleasant, often background music . Neverthless I would never call in regressive in any case.

Magma and Can representing two different subgenres of prog. I like Zeuhl (Magma). It is definitely not everybody's cup of tea. It took me long time to get into it, and even though not all Magma albums are wonderful or just good. These guys and girls released plenty of rubbish as well.

As to Krautrock and particularly Can - I am in the process of learning their works now. I own two albums Ege Bamyasi and Soon Over Babalooma, and I am not impressed to say the least. I borrowed all their albums in mp3 format from friend of mine, and spent yesterday evening listening to Unlimited Edition 1976. Can tell you that I found only one good track there - namely first one - Gomorha, and six bearable tracks (including Ibis) out of 19, all others are complete waste of time. IMO only person under heavy influence of heavy drugs can call this album masterpiece or great album.

So, calm down - this is still prog website, just tastes differ.

I know it's developping into world-wide encyclopedia of music in general, but sofar this is the best website for progressive music as well. Enjoy!

Also I would like to hear your personal expert's opinion about Can. What is so good about them? I find many of their compositions primitive, simplistic, monotonous and downright boring. Vocals are simply bad, and instrumental skills leave much to be desired - right to the point when one could wonder if they know how to play their instruments. 

Rashikal wrote: if youre telling me that can and magma arent overlooked because they had a few bad releases... welcome to all your favorite prog bands! every popular prog band here has released a sh*t album

do you realise that "overlooked" and "popular" are almost opposites??? 

Rashikal wrote: .... i think youre missing the point. Yes, Genesis, and ELP have all released more than one garbage album.

I would not argue about that. I just pointed out that you are contardicting yourself by calling Can an Magma overlooked and popular at the same time.

Also the fact that you put two completely different bands such as DT and TMV on the same bashing line tells me that you probably do not know well either of them....but it's not important.

More important is that you seem to ignore my sincere question - what so good about Can.

Rashikal wrote: The fact that boring regressive neo-prog is ahead of MAGMA and CAN is seriously a disgrace. I thought this was a prog website!?

This is probably so because music that sounds good is usually appreciated. And by the way, I could record the sounds of me playing a tuba with a squirrel in it, and it would be very prog, yet it would sound like crap! The point: just because something is progressive doesn't mean people want to hear it. The simple fact is that symphonic prog is liked by more people and is therefore higher on the list. You can either cry about it or simply listen to what you want to listen and be happy about that. I don't come on the forum and complain that Saen's Escaping from the Hands of God isn't higher on the Top 100. Why? Because it's pointless to do so.