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    Posted: April 07 2006 at 04:20

I was wondering about this the other day and after a while it hit me. The album that polorizes the people who adore the band itself. The album bought up quickly upon release after what many call the most ground breaking album ever released. Yes, after much thought it could be none other than Tales From Topographic Oceans.

It's just a hunch, but I get the feeling that this album will be very sought after in 2106, assuming of course we have not been attacked by aliens, swallowed up by the sea, or worse yet, still being around to see if it comes true.
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Originally posted by Sacred 22 Sacred 22 wrote:

I was wondering about this the other day and after a while it hit me. The album that polorizes the people who adore the band itself. The album bought up quickly upon release after what many call the most ground breaking album ever released. Yes, after much thought it could be none other than Tales From Topographic Oceans.

It's just a hunch, but I get the feeling that this album will be very sought after in 2106, assuming of course we have not been attacked by aliens, swallowed up by the sea, or worse yet, still being around to see if it comes true.

didn't you see matrix?, we'll be dominated by computers, and they won't like music so..., i'm sorry but ther's no hope for Tales From Topographic Oceans
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Close to the edge will live, but it will be commercial album.

People will communicate telepathically, or live in caves listening Guns and roses.
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I wonder if Tales From Topographic Oceans will still be available on vinyl in 2106.
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Think back to 1906. Is there any music from that time that is now considered essential?


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Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Think back to 1906. Is there any music from that time that is now considered essential?

Sure there is. Claude Debussy had just published La Mer in 1905. Maurice Ravel had just published Schéhérazade 3 years ago; some of his most important works were published in the following years. Stravinsky was not yet there, but would soon appear (in 1910 with his Firebird suite), and I doubt his music will be forgotten during the next four years. Gustav Mahler would compose his Song of the Earth in 1907. These are just a few examples.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Think back to 1906. Is there any music from that time that is now considered essential?

Sure there is. Claude Debussy had just published La Mer in 1905. Maurice Ravel had just published Schéhérazade 3 years ago; some of his most important works were published in the following years. Stravinsky was not yet there, but would soon appear (in 1910 with his Firebird suite), and I doubt his music will be forgotten during the next four years. Gustav Mahler would compose his Song of the Earth in 1907. These are just a few examples.

Wow, what an extensive musical knowledge.



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Written in Manuscript during the 13th century and  appearing years later in operatic form ( in 1937 ) Carl Orff`s Carmina Burana (which has been butchered and raped many times since), will definitely be around in 2006 when the aliens, computers, elephants or whoever have taken control of the planet.
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I pity anyone who isn't aware of what tremendous music was being written and performed in the early years of the 20th century.  Not to mention the fact that the earliest musical recordings date from that era.

I don't know that "Tales" will be revered, I just hope Britney Spears' music has been banned by then!

As one of my favorite lyricists wrote:  "We are living in the future/I'll tell you how I know/I read it in the paper/fifteen years ago..." (John Prine)
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The beginning of the 20th Century was the time when music really started to get interesting. It was a time when composers were starting to be influenced by sounds from the far East and elsewhere; more and more "ordinary" people could afford to go to concerts (the Henry Wood Promenade concerts had started in the 1890's in London, and are still going now), plus the invention of sound recording was bringing more and more music into people's homes. Composers were experimenting with tonality (Schoenberg) or different scales (Debussy), and there was an explosion of new music available to more people than ever before.

If you were a music lover in 1906, you were living in a time of amazing musical developments which would continue for at least another 30 years!

As for Britney Spears, I can only repeat what Sir Arthur Sullivan said about - and recorded on - Edison's new invention in 1888 (one of the oldest recordings in the world):

"I am astonished and somewhat terrified. Astonished at the wonderful power you have developed; and terrified at the thought that so much hideous, bad music may be put on record forever."


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100 years from now my disembodied head will rule you all.

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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Think back to 1906. Is there any music from that time that is now considered essential?

Sure there is. Claude Debussy had just published La Mer in 1905. Maurice Ravel had just published Schéhérazade 3 years ago; some of his most important works were published in the following years. Stravinsky was not yet there, but would soon appear (in 1910 with his Firebird suite), and I doubt his music will be forgotten during the next four years. Gustav Mahler would compose his Song of the Earth in 1907. These are just a few examples.

Not counting "Fascination" composed in 1904 (in fact a romantic song).

Here in Brazil, two very dear and popular songs were composed in 1861 and 1899, respectively - more than 100 years, consequently.

BTW, "100 Years from Now" is a fair Byrds' song.

 
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Originally posted by ElwoodHerring ElwoodHerring wrote:


As for Britney Spears, I can only repeat what Sir Arthur Sullivan said about - and recorded on - Edison's new invention in 1888 (one of the oldest recordings in the world):

"I am astonished and somewhat terrified. Astonished at the wonderful power you have developed; and terrified at the thought that so much hideous, bad music may be put on record forever."

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Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

Originally posted by ElwoodHerring ElwoodHerring wrote:


As for Britney Spears, I can only repeat what Sir Arthur Sullivan said about - and recorded on - Edison's new invention in 1888 (one of the oldest recordings in the world):

"I am astonished and somewhat terrified. Astonished at the wonderful power you have developed; and terrified at the thought that so much hideous, bad music may be put on record forever."

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Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Think back to 1906. Is there any music from that time that is now considered essential?

OUCH!!! 

I really like it when some young'n joins the group, takes a listen to Sgt Pepper's, The Court or Tales or whatever, albums that many hold dearly religious, and says in no unfettered way, "this album sucks." I think that a big problem with prog is that we are trying to decipher which albums are classics and eternel. This music is not Bach, Beethoven or Brahms nor Mahler, Debussy or Stravinsky.  I'm sorry to inform you. But for what it is it is great music and will be remembered for that.
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Which fan base is Britney Spears trying to win over? Progressive rock fans or 13 year old girls? There's A LOT of BAD music out there. She's just the tip of an enourmous, spirit-crushing glacier.

It's up to you to ignore the crap and enjoy the great stuff, or you can sulk in the fact that horrible music and bad musicians get popular. As the immortal Neil Young says, "Don't let it bring you down!"


as far as yes stuff that will be around in 100 years- i would think that Fragile would still be known. in 100 years i'm sure people will still know the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Yes, Cream.... and hopefully Rush.

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I'm not sure this thread is turning out the way SACRED 22 intended.  He may want to ask the question in a different way.

I see no reason why some prog will not be considered classic in 100 years.

Genesis, Yes, Beatles, Zep are 35+ years and still going strong with classic status.  I see no reason why that will not continue.

It has yet to be seen though, because the LP as a form did not come into prominence until mid-to-late 60's.    
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Originally posted by TOD KREMER TOD KREMER wrote:

...the LP as a form did not come into prominence until mid-to-late 60's.    

The LP was around long before the "mid-to-late 60's". The likes of Dean Martin, Bing Crosby etc. were releasing LPs in the 1950s.

The UK New Musical Express started publishing a weekly LP Top 10 in 1962:

9 June 1962

01 NE Blue Hawaii - Elvis Presley
02 NE West Side Story - OST
03 NE It's Trad Dad - OST
04 NE South Pacific - OST
05 NE Young Ones - Cliff Richard/ Shadows
06 NE I Remember Tommy - Frank Sinatra
07 NE Sinatra and Strings - Frank Sinatra
08 NE The Black And White Minstrel Show - George Mitchel Minstrells
09 NE The Sound Of Music - London Cast
10 NE Honey Hit Parade - Various Artists

16 June 1962

01 01 Blue Hawaii - Elvis Presley
02 02 West Side Story - Soundtrack
03 03 It`s Trad Dad - Soundtrack
05 04 The Young Ones - Cliff Richard & The Shadows
04 05 South Pacific - Soundtrack
08 06 The Black And White Minstrel Show - George Mitchell Minstrels
07 07 Sinatra And Strings - Frank Sinatra
NE 08 The Roaring Twenties/Songs From The TV Series - Dorothy Provine
06 09 I Remember Tommy - Frank Sinatra
NE 10 The Shadows - The Shadows

23 June 1962

02 01 West Side Story - Soundtrack
01 02 Blue Hawaii - Elvis Presley
07 03 Sinatra And Strings - Frank Sinatra
06 04 The Black And White Minstrel Show - George Mitchell Minstrels
04 05 The Young Ones - Cliff Richard & The Shadows
05 06 South Pacific - Soundtrack
03 06 It`s Trad Dad - Soundtrack
10 08 The Shadows - The Shadows
09 09 I Remember Tommy - Frank Sinatra
08 10 The Roaring Twenties/Songs From The TV Series - Dorothy Provine

30 June 1962

01 01 West Side Story - Soundtrack
02 02 Blue Hawaii - Elvis Presley
06 03 South Pacific - Soundtrack
04 04 The Black And White Minstrel Show - George Mitchell Minstrels
06 05 It`s Trad Dad - Soundtrack
03 06 Sinatra And Strings - Frank Sinatra
05 07 The Young Ones - Cliff Richard & The Shadows
10 08 The Roaring Twenties/Songs From The TV Series - Dorothy Provine
NE 09 Another Black And White Minstrel Show - George Mitchell Minstrels
NE 10 Wimoweh - Karl Denver
09 10 I Remember Tommy - Frank Sinatra
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