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TheProgtologist
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 16:15 |
All great bassists on the list but I will pick Sean Malone,one of the most underrated bassists in music.I wouldn't necessarily call him a fusion bassist.His only true solo album Cortlandt is predominantly fusion though. You should have put Victor Wooten on your list though.
Edited by TheProgtologist - July 06 2006 at 16:16
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Jeff Schu
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 16:18 |
Dick Heath wrote:
RoyalJelly wrote:
Where's Percy Jones (Brand X)? By far the most original bassist, next to Jaco, nobody sounds like that. |
Totally agree - Percy Jones used to beat Pastorius in jazz bassist polls in the US in the late 70's because of his originality
My gripe the omission of Jonas Hellborg who at is responsible for at least two seminal jazz rock album in the 90's .
Then where is Matthew Garrison, Alphonso Johnson, Jamaladene Tacuma, Miroslav Vitous, Victor Bailey, Alan Caron, Ralph Armstrong, Al Garcia, Stu Hamm (equal to Billy Sheehan), Jimmy Johnson.
BTW anybody heard more than the albums Rick Laird did with Mahavishnu Orchestra - surely a bit lost in the mix? Check Horace Arnold's Tales Of The Exonerated Flea, with Jan Hammer also in support.
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Well I only put the guys that I was familiar with... I haven't listened to very much Brand X so I didn't have and opinion with which to add him. What kind of stuff did Percy Jones do with his playing??? Techniques and whatnot... and Who has he played with???... I'm not doubting him heck to be be in Fusion you must be good so I'm just curious.
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BaldJean
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 16:24 |
Percy Jones plays on a lot of albums of Brian Eno. then he of course
appears on the "Marsscape" album of Jack Lancaster (which has all of
Brand X on them) and on the "Peter and the Wolf" album by various
artists. he plays a fretless bass and uses the possibilities of it fully
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RoyalJelly
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 17:32 |
Also his own group Tunnels is very good, and his genius MIDI + bass solo album "Cape Catastrophe". What he did was take a fretless, like Jaco, and give it a completely different, ballsy, unmistakeable sound. Just listen to the bass line on the first cut on Brand X's first album, "Nuclear Burn", that says it all. And yeah, his playing on Eno's "Another Green World" and "Before and After Science" is amazing. Rick Laird was always solid and adequate, but didn't have a very distinctive voice. Jeff Belin is also one who deserves mention here.
Edited by RoyalJelly - July 06 2006 at 17:36
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Camel_APPeal
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Posted: July 06 2006 at 17:54 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
All great bassists on the list but I will pick Sean Malone,one of the most underrated bassists in music.I wouldn't necessarily call him a fusion bassist.His only true solo album Cortlandt is predominantly fusion though.
You should have put Victor Wooten on your list though. |
Totally agree! Victor Wooten is missing!
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: July 07 2006 at 08:23 |
Levin from this list. but again, WHERE IS WOOTEN????
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Jeff Schu
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Posted: July 07 2006 at 11:28 |
GoldenSpiral wrote:
Levin from this list.
but again, WHERE IS WOOTEN????
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I totally forgot about him... Sorry. Don't even know why he was in the back of my mind too. Phenomenal player.
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Raff
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Posted: July 07 2006 at 11:39 |
They're all great, of course (and I am a bass lover, as some of you might know) - but I went with Jaco. He really was something special, and his end such an utter, tragic waste.
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The Wizard
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Posted: July 07 2006 at 11:49 |
Easy, Jaco Pastorius, the Hendrix of the bass.
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Peter
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Posted: July 07 2006 at 16:21 |
Jaco Pastorius, Stanley Clarke, Percy Jones and Victor Wooten.
Jaco was an original, Clarke was amazing, Jones took the fretless to wild and wonderful new places, but NOBODY beats VW!
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Dick Heath
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Posted: July 07 2006 at 16:24 |
Jeff Schu wrote:
Dick Heath wrote:
RoyalJelly wrote:
Where's Percy
Jones (Brand X)? By far the most original bassist, next to Jaco, nobody
sounds like that. |
Totally agree - Percy Jones used to beat Pastorius in jazz bassist polls in the US in the late 70's because of his originality
My gripe the omission of Jonas Hellborg who at is responsible for at least two seminal jazz rock album in the 90's .
Then
where is Matthew Garrison, Alphonso Johnson, Jamaladene Tacuma,
Miroslav Vitous, Victor Bailey, Alan Caron, Ralph Armstrong, Al
Garcia, Stu Hamm (equal to Billy Sheehan), Jimmy Johnson.
BTW
anybody heard more than the albums Rick Laird did with Mahavishnu
Orchestra - surely a bit lost in the mix? Check Horace Arnold's Tales
Of The Exonerated Flea, with Jan Hammer also in support.
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Well I only put the guys that I was familiar with... I haven't
listened to very much Brand X so I didn't have and opinion with which
to add him. What kind of stuff did Percy Jones do with his playing???
Techniques and whatnot... and Who has he played with???... I'm not
doubting him heck to be be in Fusion you must be good so I'm just
curious. |
Get back to check out this thread - see your response re Percy Jones, then to discover everybody has got in before me. Redundant . May I make some suggestions:
1. If you would like to sample Percy Jones's style then and now, check out Brand X's Livestock and Tunnels' Progressivity.
2. I urge everybody to check out J onas Hellborg the maestro of the 4 string electric and especially the acoustic bass guitar - and yet another bassist discovered by John McLaughlin* . (IMHO) one of the top three jazz fusion albums of the 90's Octave of the Holy Innocents (with Michael Shrieve & Buckethead), Time Is The Enemy with Hellborg, Shawn lane and Jeff Sipes, Icon (Indo jazz fusion) and if available Jonas Hellborg Group's e (powerhouse Hammond-organ lead trio with the Johansson bros).
Yes where's Victor Wooton?
Amused when folks name a musician as being 'the Jimi Hendrix of......'. Jazz critics since 2000 have done that to Dan Lundberg, double bassist of EST, and acoustic guitarist Antonio Forcione. I would suggest an ambiguous tag for these guys. BTW Jimi Hendrix can be heard playing electric bass on Robert Wyatt's S low Walking Talking - when I first heard this tune, thought it was Hugh Hopper (another omission).
*The 22 years old French bass player, Hadrien Feraud on John McLAughlin's new album Industrial Zen has been hailed by some critics are the new Jaco................ But so was John Patitucci soon after Jaco's untimely death.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: July 07 2006 at 16:41 |
Man, there are so many great bassist on this list. No one could go wrong picking any of these guys.
In the end I cast my vote for Michael Manring, just because he plays bass likes it's a different instrument entirely with all of his altered tunings. The guy is just through and through a genius. There is no other way I can describe him.
Honorable mention to John Pattitucci and Dave LaRue. I really wanted to vote for both of those guys too.
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maani
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Posted: July 07 2006 at 16:51 |
Not only is Percy Jones missing, but so is Jeff Berlin. If you haven't heard Bruford's first two solo albums, you are missing some of the best bass playing ever...
Peace.
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Barla
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 17:20 |
I choose the best bassist on the Earth:
Jaco Pastorius, because he 'reinvented' the bass, and had an unique style, combining feeling and technic perfectly.
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S Lang
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 17:27 |
Rick Laird of Mahavishnu doesn't appear to be a productive artist. He played with Michael Urbaniak, a Polish jazz violinist a long time ago. To my best knowledge, his guest appearances are rare and not exeptionally prominent?
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Sacred 22
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 17:34 |
Stanley Clarke is the guy I pick although, there are some good ones there like Jaco Pastorius and many others.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 17:43 |
That's quite a list of talent, but nobody beats Jaco in my book.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: July 09 2006 at 17:54 |
Like Cygnus and Maani before me, I choose Jeff Berlin.
I especially like his bass playing on Bruford's One Of A Kind
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Melomaniac
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Posted: July 30 2006 at 12:19 |
No votes for Sean Malone ? Come ON ! Listen to Cynic, Gordian Knot, that guy just KILLS !
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mrgd
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Posted: July 31 2006 at 02:03 |
I'm with Peter Rideout's order all the way and add... Marcus Miller, Abe Laboriel, Anthony Jackson, Freddie Washington, Nathan East, Will Lee, Neil Stubenhaus and Pino Palladino to name a few.
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Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd
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