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darkshade 
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 20:04 |
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since fusion isnt the most popular genre on this site, although one of the most exciting ones, i wanted to see how popular the genre is these days on progarchives. i love it
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 20:08 |
Wouldn't say that I love it, but I do like it a lot 
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 20:34 |
 The Miracle wrote:
Wouldn't say that I love it, but I do like it a lot
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what he said
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"You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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stonebeard
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 20:44 |
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I like some bands, but dislike most bands.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 20:53 |
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I like it, but it lacks an emotional kick for me to call it awesome.
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 21:07 |
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I cannot say either "like" or "dislike" about the whole subgenre. I'm acquainted only with small amount of jazz-rock/fusion material. Some of it I didn't like. Some of it I have, and I don't buy anything that I don't like.
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 21:08 |
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Pat Metheny. 'Nuff said.
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 21:14 |
More than just like it.
It is bands like the ones mentioned below that make me really like this "genre" so much (not always strictly fusion, but always with it in the music):
Mahavishnu Orchestra, John Abercrombie, Aera,Ain Soph, Arti E Mestieri, Boud Deun, Cerebus Effect, Czeslaw Niemen, Deus Ex Machina, Eela Craig, Frogg Cafe, Fulano, Helmet of Gnats, Iceberg, Iman Califato Independiente, KBB, Kenso, Leb I Sol, Maneige, John Mclaughlin , Pat Metheny Group, Morpheus (Ger), Nucleus, Out Of Focus, Perigeo, Jean Luc Ponty, Return to Forever, Secret Oyster, Sloche, Tasavallan Presidentti, A Triggering Myth, Wigwam, Xhol and Zingale among others....
Edited by avestin - September 24 2006 at 21:16
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 22:18 |
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I'm just starting to get into it. My boss is a real fan of Al DiMeola and RTF - he suggested I find a way to check out "Romantic Warrrior". I listened to the samples on PA and was blown away - it's definitely going to be ny next genre to explore.
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superprog
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Posted: September 24 2006 at 23:34 |
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JAZZ ROCK FUSION IS THE WORD!!!!!
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darkshade
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 00:52 |
avestin wrote:
More than just like it.
It is bands like the ones mentioned below that make me really like this "genre" so much (not always strictly fusion, but always with it in the music):
Mahavishnu Orchestra, John Abercrombie, Aera,Ain Soph, Arti E Mestieri, Boud Deun, Cerebus Effect, Czeslaw Niemen, Deus Ex Machina, Eela Craig, Frogg Cafe, Fulano, Helmet of Gnats, Iceberg, Iman Califato Independiente, KBB, Kenso, Leb I Sol, Maneige, John Mclaughlin , Pat Metheny Group, Morpheus (Ger), Nucleus, Out Of Focus, Perigeo, Jean Luc Ponty, Return to Forever, Secret Oyster, Sloche, Tasavallan Presidentti, A Triggering Myth, Wigwam, Xhol and Zingale among others....
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i know theyre not on this site but dont forget Herbie Hancock's Sextet Band, and his Head Hunters band. 
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 00:55 |
From what I've heard of the genre it's got its fair share of spectacular albums: Bruford's One of a King Jean-Luc Ponty's Enigmatic Oceans Al DiMeola's Elegant Gyspy And then you can't deny Zappa's excursions into jazz. 
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 02:39 |
I have only listened to a couple of albums but what I heard till now is awesome.
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 03:00 |
Honestly...I believe this is a flawed poll.
There are great, good, average and bad bands in Fusion as in any other musical expression.
Loving or hating a complete sub-genre is a little less than absurd, not to say futile and limitating, unless it's Gangsta Rap 
Iván
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Bilek
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 05:19 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Honestly...I believe this is a flawed poll.
There are great, good, average and bad bands in Fusion as in any other musical expression.
Loving or hating a complete sub-genre is a little less than absurd, not to say futile and limitating, unless it's Gangsta Rap
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not exactly, IMHO... Fusion is a kind of "on the edge" genre, just a little inside than prog-electronic. many people may not like it, not to mention its characteristic of being an "acquired taste"...
before I forget, there's also "prog metal" which many may (or may not!) despise; as far as I remember you weren't even considering this genre "prog" Ivan; am I wrong ?
as for me, I started to "acquire" the taste in the last couple of years... along with "kraut-jazz", many great fusion acts are among my top 100 (I can't complie a smaller list  ) I can't say "I love it", but I certainly like it; a lot...
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 05:28 |
I like jazz elements, but all jazz is not my cup of tea. I voted "liking" it.
I found the jazz via 72-74 KING CRIMSON, as I started to appreciate BILL BRUFORD as the best muscian at that line-up (though all of them are great), and started to check out his recent solo jazz records. The accessible "If Summer Had It's Ghosts" opened my eyes, and the my friend introduced me to PAT METHENY.
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 05:30 |
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Love it. It is one of the most rewarding genres as far as musicianship and virtuosity are concerned! Having said that - it's probably an acquired taste for people who prefer subdued and emotive music.
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BaldJean
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 06:07 |
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I like it, but there is a certain danger to the genrè. it can become a fest of mindless showing off of instrumental skills. Al Dimeola's "Elegant Gipsy" is an example for that, in my opinion. all in all I prefer European fusion to American. American fusion has a tendency towards the mentioned danger
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S Lang
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 06:25 |
Jazz Rock (European) and Fusion (US) are markedly different.
The first includes Mahavishnu, Soft Machine, Nucleus, Bruford, Brand X, Pierre Moerlen's Gong etc. whilst the latter is more of sophisticated elevator music performed by Spyro Gyra, Grover Washington Jr. Frank Gambale (an Australian), Scott Henderson, etc.
Of Al DiMeola's Elegant Gypsy is of more Latin with spirited improvisations and would suit Jazz Rock, rather than Fusion. Stanley Clarke's early albums were also in the Jazz Rock vein until he opted for brassy Funk later.
Jazz Fusion is a too broad term to use IMO. In my world Jazz Rock rules!
Edited by S Lang - September 25 2006 at 06:28
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Posted: September 25 2006 at 07:04 |
Love it. Be it as relaxing and classy as Bruford or energetic and showy as Wooten/ Bailey
Edited by Majestic_Mayhem - September 25 2006 at 07:10
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