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    Posted: February 13 2005 at 16:02

Cert, what do you mean when you say "Yes....too many flaws"?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2005 at 16:21
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2005 at 16:36

Is this really an appropriate or desirable discussion?

I mean, do we really want a thread that features me arguing with half the site?

Maybe a poll... NO - I WAS KIDDING!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2005 at 16:52
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Is this really an appropriate or desirable discussion?

I mean, do we really want a thread that features me arguing with half the site?

Maybe a poll... NO - I WAS KIDDING!!!

C'mon-I'm not setting you up,just interested to see what you mean by flaws...Confused

Give or I'll poll you to death buster!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2005 at 17:24

heck - I'll start you off with a 'guilt list'

Jon Anderson - takes the blame for pint-sized mystical nonsense and miniature harps plus the barnyard animals calamity during recording of tales

Rick Wakeman - spelling Motzart badly on the sleeve notes of Fragile and for having optics on his Hammond during the tales tour and biryanis.

Chris Squire - for being overbearing, thinking he's the centre of the universe and for playing too darn loud.

Bill Bruford - for leaving

Alan White - for making me sit next to his 108 year old mum at a concert. spooky.

Steve Howe - for looking like the bloke who lives in a Fed Ex box at the end of my street and for coming up with Tales

Trevor Horn - for offences against eyewear and for being eerily like Anderson.

Trevor Rabin - for bombastic, awful soundtracks to Jerry Bruckheimer movies. For being the favoured soundtrack writer of Don Simpson - can't be a good recommendation

Patrick Moraz - for being French in a built-up area.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2005 at 17:49

LOL, I love Yes and I can find many flaws...I can't wait to hear what folks who dislike them can come up with!

Jon Anderson: at least four too many vocal overdubs on any given song. Plus the scatting can get to be a little much, especially later on in the discography. And don't even get me started on the solo albums!

Steve Howe: incredible disdain for good guitar tones. And don't even get me started on the solo albums!

Wakeman: sometimes less is more. Sometimes none is better still. And don't even get me started on the solo albums!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2005 at 17:58

Wakeman's (aka God) solo stuff is wildly over-rated.

Journey To The Centre Of The Earth: rule of thumb-avoid all albums with narrators.
Embarrassing bombast, makes ELP sound minimalist and relevnt.Thumbs DownAlthough superior to:

The Myths And Legends of King Arthur etc:the title is too bloody long for starters.
Question to Rick: This-why?This album is atrocious.Thumbs DownThumbs DownThumbs DownThumbs DownThumbs Down

Six Wives is very good and unusually for a Wakeman solo album is relatively restrained and enjoyable.Thumbs Up

All that New Age "pay the bills" bollocks:sh*te of the highest order and Ricardo you should be bloody ashamed.Angry

 

 

 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2005 at 20:18
What barnyard animal crisis? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2005 at 22:14
Originally posted by arcer arcer wrote:

heck - I'll start you off with a 'guilt list'

Jon Anderson - takes the blame for pint-sized mystical nonsense and miniature harps plus the barnyard animals calamity during recording of tales

Rick Wakeman - spelling Motzart badly on the sleeve notes of Fragile and for having optics on his Hammond during the tales tour and biryanis.

Chris Squire - for being overbearing, thinking he's the centre of the universe and for playing too darn loud.

Bill Bruford - for leaving

Alan White - for making me sit next to his 108 year old mum at a concert. spooky.

Steve Howe - for looking like the bloke who lives in a Fed Ex box at the end of my street and for coming up with Tales

Trevor Horn - for offences against eyewear and for being eerily like Anderson.

Trevor Rabin - for bombastic, awful soundtracks to Jerry Bruckheimer movies. For being the favoured soundtrack writer of Don Simpson - can't be a good recommendation

Patrick Moraz - for being French in a built-up area.

any more......

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2005 at 22:20
I prefer ELP.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2005 at 00:06
Me too!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2005 at 02:33

Yes are overrated.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2005 at 03:55

Generally overrated or just in prog circles?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2005 at 06:38
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Yes are overrated.

Substantiate.

ie Radiohead are not prog because.................................Wink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2005 at 07:14

Originally posted by Sweetnighter Sweetnighter wrote:

What barnyard animal crisis? 

Its not as kinky as its sounds..

As I understand it Jon wanted to record in the countryside - in the woods..in a tent by all accounts. The others didn't so as a compromise they recorded in the town, but decked the studio out to look like a farm yard, with little fences separating all the pieces of equipment, and 2D cut outs of farm animals.

Im not making this up, I promise. You couldn't if you tried.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2005 at 07:21

I like Yes, and I think their music is riddled with flaws, but I dont care. For Gods sake I like Hawkwind!! If I'm able to put up with flat vocals, bad sax playing and out of time drumming, I can put up with Yes's random confused sounding cacophonous racket. I'm less able to take in their moments of sheer nonesense like 'The Circus of Heaven'

I like to think they were being 'ironic' when they wrote that, or at least tripping their nuts off on acid. But I have a hunch niether may have been the case.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2005 at 08:44
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Yes are overrated.

Substantiate.

ie Radiohead are not prog because.................................Wink

But Radiohead ARE prog

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2005 at 09:29

But Yes isn't overrated. It's impossible to overrate CTTE, The Yes Album, Relayer and Time And A Word. (IMO of Course).

Their where maybe some flaws in TFTO and Fragile and in their debut album, but not big ones.

After Relayer, it went downhill, but till then Yes where magnificent.

The only overrated part of Yes was, and is Wakeman, tediously uninspired on TFTO, no noteworthy contribution on Fragile and generally boring in his solo-carreer.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2005 at 10:00
It sends me to sleep.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2005 at 10:05
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