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Dim
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Topic: "Brave" My first neo prog album Posted: June 23 2007 at 22:39 |
Yo, I just got brave at a very cheap used CD store, I just got done listening to it for the first time, and because I am an avid prog listener, I will probably need to listen to it a few more times before I can really digest it.
What are your opinions towards the album, Marillon after Fish, and all that Jazz (not literally jazz!)?
Edited by schizoid_man77 - June 23 2007 at 22:39
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video vertigo
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Posted: June 23 2007 at 23:05 |
one of my favorites, Marillion's best to me but it took me forever to get into. I'm glad I kept trying though
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 01:35 |
I like some of the epics that Marillion has done in the post-Fish era ("Interior Lulu" from Marillion.com comes immediately to mind), and Brave is the best post-Fish work, but the Fish-era is to me what the Gabriel-era is to Genesis: the best!
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Dim
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 10:43 |
I think the last three songs on the album are Excellent!!!
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 10:46 |
Its alright I guess.
Edit. I must add however that my opinion is hardly valid concerning Marillion, as they are far from being my favourite band. Still...there are other albums I prefer to Brave.
Edited by Snow Dog - June 24 2007 at 11:05
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 10:53 |
Probably the best disc I own; however, it did take a few listens to completely 'get it'.
And no secret that I prefer the Hogarth era, but I do enjoy the Fish era as well.
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The Miracle
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 13:18 |
It will take a while to grow, however keep in mind that Brave is not a good representation of neo prog sound(or Marillion's typical sound for that matter). Fish era albums are much better and far more representative.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 13:23 |
The Miracle wrote:
It will take a while to grow, however keep in mind that Brave is not a good representation of neo prog sound(or Marillion's typical sound for that matter). Fish era albums are much better and far more representative. |
More representative I can agree on, but better?
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Posted: June 24 2007 at 13:53 |
It is probably the best Hogarth-era album, and also an important one as it brought them back to their prog roots after venturing into mainstream singles territory with Seasons End and Holidays in Eden. To me it is the album that established Steve Hogarth as a singer and lyricist. I find the lyrics and the whole story-line to be the most moving and emotional of any Marillion album (or even any album come to think of it), it is also the first musically coherent album they made as a band, defining a darker melencolic Marillion sound.
(Since Steve H has recorded ten albums with them isn't it time we started calling the first four albums as pre-Hogarth? just a thought)
Edited by darqdean - June 24 2007 at 13:54
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el böthy
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Posted: June 25 2007 at 23:42 |
darqdean wrote:
It is probably the best Hogarth-era album, and also an important one as it brought them back to their prog roots after venturing into mainstream singles territory with Seasons End and Holidays in Eden. To me it is the album that established Steve Hogarth as a singer and lyricist. I find the lyrics and the whole story-line to be the most moving and emotional of any Marillion album (or even any album come to think of it), it is also the first musically coherent album they made as a band, defining a darker melencolic Marillion sound.
(Since Steve H has recorded ten albums with them isn't it time we started calling the first four albums as pre-Hogarth? just a thought) |
Well, Collins sung in more albums than Gabriel, but you dont see us talking about the pre Collins era!
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Dim
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Posted: June 25 2007 at 23:45 |
^ because the Gabriel out dose the Collins era by such a large margin that It's like Collins having made one album and PG making 10.
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 08:47 |
An excellent album, a demanding but rewarding experience, one of the best works by Marillion, but not a typical neo prog record.
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Dim
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 10:06 |
Is it me, or is the title song maybe one of them ost beautiful songs ever!
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 10:27 |
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Is it me, or is the title song maybe one of them ost beautiful songs ever! |
It is definitely one of them IMHO.
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 20:04 |
darqdean wrote:
schizoid_man77 wrote:
Is it me, or is the title song maybe one of them ost beautiful songs ever! |
It is definitely one of them IMHO. |
The final 15 minutes or so (From "Brave" through "Made Again") is some of the most beautiful, emotional, heart wrenching pieces of music I've ever heard. Simply thinking about it gives me chills.
And if you have the Brave Live 2002 DVD, seeing the visual spectacle is something to behold. Especially during these final moments. It just drives me mad to hear people say that Hogarth possesses no emotion. He puts everything into this performance, but on "The Great Escape" he just lets it all go. Inspirational, to say the very least.
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Dim
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Posted: June 26 2007 at 21:00 |
^ Saying Hogarth has no emotion is like saying Geddy Lee sing's bass!
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