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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2007 at 21:41
LOLLOL Bach and Mozart in same sentence with Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Frank Zappa LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
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Why not? Everyone's entitled to their opinions, I myself like sometimes to think that Frank Zappa, Crimson, Yes and Genesis can be au pair with Bach Mozart Beethoven. All of these entities contributed to the development of music, or inovated in some way, or just made beautiful music that appeals and makes the listener sense something.

But first lets not get away from the theme I proposed, which is, discuss the work of this american group. I myself for example (apart from Zappa and the mothers of invention and Mr.Bungle, hope im not forgetting anyone) think this group is probably the best thing that came out of that country (in what concerns to prog music) and this is my opinion, of course you can say to me i havent listened to everything made from the states, but i've heard enough to tell you that i  wont be changing my opinion at least for some time. 

Its just a matter of opinion, my brother listened to the album In Glorious Times at the same time as myself. I turned to him and sayed "It's been a long time since i listened to an album that made me really hooked on it and i consider this a piece of art" he replied and I quote "It's been a long time since i listened to an album that made me feel the will to throw up!"

God i just wanted to kill that guy...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2007 at 21:15
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Of course not.

Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Bach, Mozart, Frank Zappa....these artists are geniuses.

There's a rare quality of soul, brilliance, and unfathomably rich songwriting to qualify some artist for genius status, IMO. SGM are talented, but even in the realm of RIO/Avant, their second-rate IMO. Samla Mannas Manna and Univers Zero are are first rate.


LOLLOL Bach and Mozart in same sentence with Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Frank Zappa LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2007 at 20:50
Stonebeard... its ok, you can like music made after 1979. thanks for mentioning SMM, though, PA samples sound pretty interesting. but it also sounds like they fall on the opposite end of the Avant/RIO sub-group than Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, and SGM's side is also that farthest from your other favorites. Sorry to pick on you, but that sort of thing annoys me because of the assumptions it makes about the purpose of music. music is a completely relativistic thing, and being such, the only real thing that matters is how it affects the listener(/player) and only if it can so completely affect the listener(/player) can it be said to be genius, i think. and i also feel that there are few bands, even within the Avant/RIO section, that can so completely twist your perceptions about music, and so viscerally affect you, in the same way as SGM (Fantomas, Unexpect, and maybe Ephel Duath, stand right up there...and yes, i recognize that these all stand on the metal edge of Avante, a side to which i am biased). ever since downloading "sleep is wrong" from their website, i knew it was obvious that there was something incredible to SGM, and although i feel it didn't mature until "in glorious times", i think they are as appropriate as any to carry the term "genius", if the term should be used at all.
(for the record, however, Zappa is the only one of the artists you named that doesn't bore me, and even then he is hit -and-miss. i give credit to them all, especially mozart, but there is more out there...)

well, i was relaxing to sigur ros, but so much for that...
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The beauty of everything is infinite and cruel."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2007 at 16:42

Of course not.

Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Bach, Mozart, Frank Zappa....these artists are geniuses.

There's a rare quality of soul, brilliance, and unfathomably rich songwriting to qualify some artist for genius status, IMO. SGM are talented, but even in the realm of RIO/Avant, their second-rate IMO. Samla Mannas Manna and Univers Zero are are first rate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2007 at 16:06
They are absolute masterliness, truly original and innovative. And one of the weirdest bands, ever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2007 at 15:48
I never use and dislike the word genius, but I think SGM are probably one of the better bands of today doing something worthwile.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2007 at 15:33
Personally i love their inovation of instruments. The brick. Pale. Harps, organs, and random electric channels. It makes for interesting music. I really dig them.
To a lot of people its noise. I guess you just look deeper into it. SGM is one of the best when it comes to strange unusual art.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2007 at 14:29
I wouldnt call them virtuosos.. but their music is truly a work of genius. Probably my favorite modern band when it comes to prog, and definitly my favorite bizzare band in general. Just look at the photo under this text
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2007 at 14:22
Just finished right now hearing their last album In Glorious Times, and having heard the other two Museum of Natural History and Grand Opening and Closing i wanted to ask your opinion about them. In my opinion they are really nowadays the geniuses of progressive rock. Their work is so intricate and well composed making us feel a varied range of feelings depending on the track we´re into and their virtuosity is probably unmatched.

Of course this is only my opinion but rarely i' ve found a group of musicians with their talent and creativity and intent in doing something really different which for me is very important since nowadays  creativity in music is quite stagnant. Unfortunately bands like these are rarely recognized for their musicianship, but lets get down to business.

So lets open a discussion here, what do you think about Sleepytime Gorilla Museum?
Are they really geniuses or just a group of musicians doing noise?

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