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Draconis
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Topic: Epica or Nightwish Posted: March 16 2008 at 01:01 |
I've been listening to both these bands lately. I really like some of Epica's material, but they're hit-and-miss for me, whereas Nightwish is consistently outstanding. Also, the grunting takes something away from Epica's presentation. Done very sparingly, it adds something. But Epica relies on it far too much, imo. It gets old quickly.
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Nuke
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Posted: January 07 2008 at 15:37 |
3 words:
consign to oblivion
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aapatsos
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Posted: November 18 2007 at 08:36 |
almost anything would be better than Nightwish...Epica certainly is
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limeyrob
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Posted: November 18 2007 at 04:47 |
I would have said that both bands are great but that was until their respective last albums. Epica's was very poor - too much growling and thrash at the end of most tracks. Nightwish's is brilliant.
Also - have you tried Within Temptation?
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ProgBagel
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 15:34 |
I checked both of these bands out vaguely. Epica was pretty good when I saw my friend open for them. Nightwish just sounded ok.
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b_olariu
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 15:13 |
I prefer Nightwish - Oceanborn is one of the best albums of the '90's, very well played. Now the new Nightwish is awfull, it's a shame because they release some gret albums at the turn of the century. Epica i lke also the newest one from 2007 is quite good and the one from 2005 Consign to oblivion is good, but i 'm staying with Nightwish, Both are not among my fav. bands but are very ok.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 21 2007 at 05:24 |
^ it's strange then that they don't sound similar.
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Rimantas B.
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Posted: July 21 2007 at 03:58 |
I've tried to listen to Epica, but I found it just to be a rip-off of Nightwish. As it often is with rip-offs, the original is far better.
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Jared
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Posted: July 20 2007 at 13:08 |
R o V e R wrote:
both are almost equal
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but some are more equal than others...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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R o V e R
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Posted: July 20 2007 at 11:42 |
wow both are almost equal
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el böthy
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Posted: July 19 2007 at 20:11 |
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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sleeper
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Posted: July 18 2007 at 18:29 |
Not really heard much from either of them, but Epica seem more interesting to me.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: July 18 2007 at 11:31 |
WaywardSon wrote:
Of those two I would vote for Epica, but if Evanescence was listed I would vote for them. |
*blarg* ... there goes my dinner.
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Firefly
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Posted: July 18 2007 at 11:14 |
HAHAHAHAH!!! Ok, all that being said, I listne to Tom Waits quite seldom, but the point was that I learned to appreciate him, when I used to actually question people why on earth they'd buy such rubbish.
As for the barbequed man in the other room last night, it was the only way to stop him from butting into my polls. Nice drummer or no nice drummer! hahahahahahaha
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Jared
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Posted: July 18 2007 at 11:02 |
Firefly wrote:
And sometimes it takes years for some things to click. Like with me and Tom Waits.
Oh dear God no... not Tom bloody Waits... I had an ex girlfriend who was into him, and believe me...I've suffered enough of his drone to last a lifetime...
And fandango, I'm pretty sure that most of those happened yesterday under the influence of a bit of red wine. As well as being picky, I'm also cheap with alcohol. 2 Glasses and I'm chattty and silly. Made way too many polls (thank god or the moderators that the Icelandic one disappeared), and talked my little butt off.
And all the while, a man was being barbecued alive in a giant wicker basket, only in the other room...... you heartless cow!!
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Firefly
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Posted: July 18 2007 at 10:40 |
fandango wrote:
C'mon guys...where's all the Nightwish lovin' gone....
And Firefly... up to 138 posts now?? You've been a busy little insect, haven't you?? |
awww...I think I was just too seriously into brutal forms of metal to appreciate it. And to some degree, that still stands. Can't stand any of the power metal/goth rock hybrids. Not a single one. But I still like to read about them, so it's not directed at them personally, and when something new comes out, I give it a try, because you never know when a band you dislike makes that one album your life wouldn't be quite the same without.
And sometimes it takes years for some things to click. Like with me and Tom Waits. For so many years I really couldn't understand why so many people liked and revered him. It took a Primus song, and then accidentally hearing the first track off "Mule variations" for the lightbulb to off....that "aaaah" moment.
I'm not saying it's going to happen with this stuff, but I'm also never saying never. I'll try things out that people suggest (it's no skin off my nose), but I'm actually painfully picky.
And fandango, I'm pretty sure that most of those happened yesterday under the influence of a bit of red wine. As well as being picky, I'm also cheap with alcohol. 2 Glasses and I'm chattty and silly. Made way too many polls (thank god or the moderators that the Icelandic one disappeared), and talked my little butt off.
Hahahha. That's me. I get a little tipsy, and not only do I love the world, but I get verbal diarrhea.
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Jared
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Posted: July 18 2007 at 10:14 |
C'mon guys...where's all the Nightwish lovin' gone....
And Firefly... up to 138 posts now?? You've been a busy little insect, haven't you??
Edited by fandango - July 18 2007 at 10:15
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Firefly
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Posted: July 18 2007 at 10:08 |
Zargus wrote:
dont like any on em and yes i have heard both, got a friend who like em very much but no not my taste. |
Same here. Again, not my thing, but I'm curious if perhaps you'd like The Project Hate?
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WaywardSon
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Posted: July 18 2007 at 10:03 |
Of those two I would vote for Epica, but if Evanescence was listed I would vote for them.
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Zargus
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Posted: July 18 2007 at 09:10 |
dont like any on em and yes i have heard both, got a friend who like em very much but no not my taste.
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