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    Posted: November 23 2007 at 12:03
Very difficult to choose only 5, 10 would have been more appropriate...
 
Well, limiting myself to only one album per band it would look something like this
 
- Dream Theater: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
- Riverside: Second Life Syndrome
- Ayreon: Into The Electric Castle
- Symphony X: The Divine Wings of Tragedy
- Vanden Plas: Christ 0
 
 
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 To make it easier I consider now only the "regular" prog metal bands, no post and extreme this time. But it's still thoug enough.
So the going gets though and the though  gets going as Peter Gabriel wrote:
 5 brilliant albums in chronological order:
 
   Fates Warning:Awaken the Guardian
   Dream Theater:Images and Words
   Fates Warning. A Pleasant Shade of Gray 
   Pain of Salvation.Entropia
   Pain of salvation:the Perfect Element Pt 1.
 
Honourable mention to DT's Awake, V and Divine Wings by Symphony X, Pain of Salvations other albums, except Scarsick.
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Ermmm... DT, no thanks.
 
I hate listing my favirotes. If you really want to know, check out Omega Massif!
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Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Yes of course T.
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Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Yes of course T.
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Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

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Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

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Count me in!
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Yes of course T.
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Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by archivep archivep wrote:

Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by archivep archivep wrote:

1.DT "Images & Words" 2.DT "Awake" 3.ARK "Burn The Sun" 4.DT "Metropolis..." + "Train..." 5.FATES WARNING "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" "Images..." is for me the absolute peak of progressive metal with the perfect songwriting, musicianship and the production. I think it has not been reached yet.

Quite an overstatement there my friend. Images and Words is trully a benchmark of progressive metal as a genre, but there are loads of other bands other than Dream Theater who made better albums than that. So anyways, here is my top 5 in no particular order:

 

Pain of Salvation- Entropia

Dream Theater- Awake

Tool- Lateralus

Symphony X- V

Ayreon- The Human Equation

 

 

 

No everstatement my friend... For me it´s a fact. I´ve heard plenty of prog metal and so called prog metal albums in many years, but simply DT is the top for me.
Everybody has an opinion, so I respect yours, my friend.
 
I'm with Archivep on this one Mike...and not because of DT (in fact, I DO think therer are better albums than Images...)... Why would you or me qualify his opinion as an overstatement? I think you putting Entropia above SX's V is outrageous, but it's just opinions, and for you, a fact. So, for Archivep, his staemente must also be a fact, as it's his opinion.
 
My top-five:
 
1 - Scenes from a Memory - DREAM THEATER
2 - Age of Impact - EXPLORERS CLUB
3 - Various - LEONARDO THE ABSOLUTE MAN
4 - Tyranny - SHADOW GALLERY
5 - Images and Words - DREAM THEATER
 
Yes, how "uncool" I am, not one single extreme or post metal band on my top 5, and TWO DT albums... and such an unknown thing as Explorer's Club, very much criticized as well as praised....... What the hell, it's my list, isn't it? For me, it's a FACT.
 
I wrote "In no particular order". And I often don't consider my opinions as absolute facts. We both agree that there are much more better album than Images and Words. I reacted when he wrote "it has not been reached yet",,,, that I don't think so, and is really quite an overstatement. There's no need for much argument really.Big%20smile
 
btw, my name is not Mike.ConfusedWink
 
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Sorry man, you're most definitely not Mike...
 
And good answer anyway. Though he has the right to think that Images and Words is a peak that hasn't been reached yet.
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Ugh this is impossible...and completely unrepresentative of my metal tastes.

Dream Theater - Images and Words
Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element
Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane
Death - Symbolic
Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye

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Dream Theater- Scenes from a Memory
Pain of Salvation- Be
Dream Theater- Awake
Opeth- Blackwater Park
Devin Townsend- Ziltoid the Omniscient


not exactly representative of all aspcets of the genre but IMO the top 5 for me Big%20smile


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Dream Theater - Images & Words
Tool - Lateralus
Dream Theater - Train of Thought
Tool - Aenima
Death - The Sound of Perseverance

... I know, I know, it's just that most prog metal sucks Could we count In Absentia and Deadwing by Porcupine Tree?
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Death - The sound of Perserverance
Tool - Lateralus
Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood
Meshuggah - I
Kayo Dot - Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tounge
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in first place i will put any album by Ayreon , ARK "Burn The Sun" is great album, i think my cd is no longer in use because i play it so many times, every album by Death is exiting but Human is just.... perfect , Opeth - Blackwater  park , i think it is a masterpiece and Pain of Salvation - The perfect element part I  .... no comment
oh wait i forget ......SHADOW GALLERy now that is a bend that have some good albumsCool

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 no i forgot MAYDOME what great band! 

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No order:
 
Sieges Even - A Sense of Change
Thordendal's Special Defects - Sol Niger Within
Dream Theater - Awake
Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve
Symphony X - V: The New Mythology Suite
 
RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway!
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by archivep archivep wrote:

Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by archivep archivep wrote:

1.DT "Images & Words" 2.DT "Awake" 3.ARK "Burn The Sun" 4.DT "Metropolis..." + "Train..." 5.FATES WARNING "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" "Images..." is for me the absolute peak of progressive metal with the perfect songwriting, musicianship and the production. I think it has not been reached yet.

Quite an overstatement there my friend. Images and Words is trully a benchmark of progressive metal as a genre, but there are loads of other bands other than Dream Theater who made better albums than that. So anyways, here is my top 5 in no particular order:

 

Pain of Salvation- Entropia

Dream Theater- Awake

Tool- Lateralus

Symphony X- V

Ayreon- The Human Equation

 

 

 

No everstatement my friend... For me it´s a fact. I´ve heard plenty of prog metal and so called prog metal albums in many years, but simply DT is the top for me.
Everybody has an opinion, so I respect yours, my friend.
 
I'm with Archivep on this one Mike...and not because of DT (in fact, I DO think therer are better albums than Images...)... Why would you or me qualify his opinion as an overstatement? I think you putting Entropia above SX's V is outrageous, but it's just opinions, and for you, a fact. So, for Archivep, his staemente must also be a fact, as it's his opinion.
 
My top-five:
 
1 - Scenes from a Memory - DREAM THEATER
2 - Age of Impact - EXPLORERS CLUB
3 - Various - LEONARDO THE ABSOLUTE MAN
4 - Tyranny - SHADOW GALLERY
5 - Images and Words - DREAM THEATER
 
Yes, how "uncool" I am, not one single extreme or post metal band on my top 5, and TWO DT albums... and such an unknown thing as Explorer's Club, very much criticized as well as praised....... What the hell, it's my list, isn't it? For me, it's a FACT.
 
I wrote "In no particular order". And I often don't consider my opinions as absolute facts. We both agree that there are much more better album than Images and Words. I reacted when he wrote "it has not been reached yet",,,, that I don't think so, and is really quite an overstatement. There's no need for much argument really.Big%20smile
 
btw, my name is not Mike.ConfusedWink

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This is simply too hard. Coming up with five is impossible, if only because I'd have to restrict myself to picking this few from about 25-30 albums I'd give (or have given) 4.5/5 stars. And just thinking about having to choose out Agalloch album out of three seems like an impossible task (if I pick, I'm not giving other hypermasterpieces the attention they deserve).
 
I'll remember to think about it though, good thread.
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Originally posted by archivep archivep wrote:

Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by archivep archivep wrote:

1.DT "Images & Words" 2.DT "Awake" 3.ARK "Burn The Sun" 4.DT "Metropolis..." + "Train..." 5.FATES WARNING "A Pleasant Shade of Gray" "Images..." is for me the absolute peak of progressive metal with the perfect songwriting, musicianship and the production. I think it has not been reached yet.

Quite an overstatement there my friend. Images and Words is trully a benchmark of progressive metal as a genre, but there are loads of other bands other than Dream Theater who made better albums than that. So anyways, here is my top 5 in no particular order:

 

Pain of Salvation- Entropia

Dream Theater- Awake

Tool- Lateralus

Symphony X- V

Ayreon- The Human Equation

 

 

 

No everstatement my friend... For me it´s a fact. I´ve heard plenty of prog metal and so called prog metal albums in many years, but simply DT is the top for me.
Everybody has an opinion, so I respect yours, my friend.
 
I'm with Archivep on this one Mike...and not because of DT (in fact, I DO think therer are better albums than Images...)... Why would you or me qualify his opinion as an overstatement? I think you putting Entropia above SX's V is outrageous, but it's just opinions, and for you, a fact. So, for Archivep, his staemente must also be a fact, as it's his opinion.
 
My top-five:
 
1 - Scenes from a Memory - DREAM THEATER
2 - Age of Impact - EXPLORERS CLUB
3 - Various - LEONARDO THE ABSOLUTE MAN
4 - Tyranny - SHADOW GALLERY
5 - Images and Words - DREAM THEATER
 
Yes, how "uncool" I am, not one single extreme or post metal band on my top 5, and TWO DT albums... and such an unknown thing as Explorer's Club, very much criticized as well as praised....... What the hell, it's my list, isn't it? For me, it's a FACT.
 


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I could never put Dream Theater anywhere in a top 5 list.  Unless that list was top 5 great bands with a singer who can't perform live and whose 'melodies' are as mundane as fish and chips.
 
1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
2. Death - Sound of Perseverance
3. Cynic - Focus
4. Tool - Lateralus
5. Atheist - Elements
 
 
Unfortunately there's very little prog-metal with clean vocals that appeals to me.  If only Dream Theater and Fate's Warning and them had singers more like Rob Lowe!
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  1. Tool - Lateralus (the only perfect album in the metal genre if you ask me)
  2. Opeth - Blackwater park
  3. Moonsorrow - V Havitetty (not in the archives, but it can be seen as progressive)
  4. Pain of Salvation - The perfect element part I
  5. Fredik Thordendal´s Special Defects - Sol Niger Within
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