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    Posted: November 29 2007 at 20:36

Hi, First of all I want to comment on what a GREAT community of people you all are. Everyone is so knowledgable, friendly and helpful. I'm really digging this!!
Anyway, I'm a keyboard fanatic having grown up in the golden age of vintage prog as most of you know. I've always been an Emerson fanatic since I first heard Tarkus back when it first came out. He's been the number one guy for me all these years but I now see how much stuff is out there that I've never even explored let alone heard.

So hypothetically if you were to say "Hey Mike, If you think Emerson is great, you should hear (fill in the blank).    Who would that guy be and what CD would best show off his keyboard skills? Thanks!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:02
Welcome to the Archives!
Here's my two cents:  If you think Emerson is great, you should hear Tomas Bodin both his solo albums and his work with The Flower Kings.  IMO he's done some of the best soloing in prog in the last 20 years.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:09
Darn it, you stole mine...

If you think Emerson is great, check out Rick Wakeman. Anything he has done with Yes or by his lonesome is pretty stellar keyboard stuff.

If you think Emerson is great, you should hear Lalle Larsson. There is a wealth of his material on Youtube, along with his work alongside Karmakanic's live stuff. You can also see his work with Electrocution 250 on this site.

If you think Emerson is great, you should hear Andy Tillison. His work with The Tangent  is exemplary. I have had trouble location any of his stuff form Parallel or 90 Degrees, but I'm sure that is well done too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:11
I like Emerson's playing lots and for the pompous sound which has its appeal hes the best at it. Another modern Keys player who has a slight pompous approach is Jordan Rudess  you should check out Starcastles Herb Schildt  "Fountains of light"  if you want to hear some amazing keyboard playing . I dont  think that over blown virtuoso is everything so my favorite keyboard player is Kerry Livgren from Kansas as his textures and composing is really very beautiful. I don't think I need to mention Rick Wakeman or Patrick Moraz   as you probably already know of them if not you need to start here.  Trent Gardner has also had lots to do with the modern prog movement in the last 15 years and hes also very good. Michael Pinella from Symphony X (prog metal) is a great keyboard player also  ...   but Emerson is Emerson  hes one of the best if not the best prog keyboardist ever so you ask a hard question. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:21
hello profanatio, I'm glad you like it around hereSmile.  I am a vintage keyboard fan as yourself, and I'm always looking for bands that use a nice helping of organ, mellotron, harpsichord, clavinet, etc etc.
 
If you like Emo, then you should definately try Marian Varga and his Slovakian band Collegium Musicum; their 1971 album Konvergencie is probably the best place to start - check the reviews in the database.
 
I also have to mention one of my favorite Italian bands, Le Orme.  They had a bombastic side close to ELP but with a more melodic sensibility and less "over-the-top".  I find that two of their albums are essential to a good prog rock collection:  Uomo di Pezza (1972) and Felona e Sorona (1973), a mystical concept album about two distant planets.  Hopefully it won't be a problem that the lyrics are in Italian...IMO the beautiful language goes perfectly with bombastic keyboards. 
 
Happy proggin', and if you find yourself wanting more (you will Wink), there are many excellent threads from the past - you can do a search for, that deal with keyboard-driven prog, or ask the experts lurking around (Erik Neuteboom is a keyboard "freak", he'll be glad to recommend you some stuff).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:22
try Dave Greenslade if you like Emerson.. John Novello of Niacin is amazing on the Hammond, as is the great Jimmy Smith of course... Kit Watkins (formerly of Happy the Man) is also worth a try, as well as Dave Stewart (with many bands, Egg, National Health, Bruford, etc.), Kurt Rongey, and Alain Rochette (of Present)







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:28
I'm writing as fast as I can!!! You guys are awesome!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:31

Check Flavio Premoli (PFM) here:

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=esHEPt41Sjc

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 21:33
^bingo, this one is good too: http://www.progarchives.com/media.asp?id=323
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 22:36
In modern prog, it would definately be Jordan Rudess. He's the closest to Emerson by still far away.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 22:42
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

In modern prog, it would definately be Jordan Rudess. He's the closest to Emerson by still far away.
 
Agreed, he's a magician of the keyboard! Clap
 
 
Holy God, that keyboard is breathtaking!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 23:30
Rudess is great (I very much like 'Feeding the Wheel'), but there others as good and better..  and he doesn't so much remind of Emerson


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2007 at 00:15
As a keyboardist who grew up worshipping Emo, I'd recommend Bodin & Rudess.  As for who is the most "technical" player in the genre?  I never thought I'd say anyone but Keith...but Jordan Rudess blows my mind!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2007 at 00:17
If you think Emerson is great, you are great.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2007 at 00:18
And yes, this site has so many sources, welcome to it, it can be a little sketchy at times but 99 percent of the time it is a goldmine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2007 at 02:45
Well, if you like Emersone, you should check some Italian Symph bands. Guigo already mentioned PFM, I will add Banco. They both had great piano (and synth) moments.
 
The other that springs to mind is German band Triumvirat...they certainly didn't had the depth of Keith's jazz-classical piano passages, but the brassy leads on synths are just as majestic.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2007 at 07:43
If you are reading Erik's very large Hammond Organ article, you'll see John Novello of Niacin mentioned, who acknowledges Emerson, Brian Auger and Jimmy Smith amonst many others as his influences. I most certainly support the suggestion of Marian Varga of Collegium Musicium - but prefer the 1973 eponymously title live album.
 
Jan Hammer (and before the electronica of Miami Vice), developed the mini-Moog and as a result has an instantly identifable sound, whether on his own albums, or guest on Al DiMeola and many other artists albums.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2007 at 08:07
Some personal favourite keyboard albums (I play keyboard myself...used to have a Hammond but that recently died on meLOL)
 
Refugee- Refugee (Patrick Moraz at his best, IMHO- if you like this check out the eponymous 'Mainhorse' album with some rip-roaring Hammond organ playing)
Greenslade- Bedside Manners Are Extra (a wide variety of keyboard workouts on this- their only stellar album, IMHO, then try Colosseum's 'Valentyne Suite')
Rick Wakeman- Six Wives Of Henry VIII (an obvious choice but one that shouldn't be overlooked on such lists; still his best work, IMHO)
Brian Auger's Oblivion Express- s/t (I just love the opening track on this one called 'Dragon Song')
Camel- Mirage
Egg- Egg, The Polite Force (great Hammond showcases- maybe check out Khan's 'Space Shanty' but you have to contend with Steve Hillage's vocals on there which are an acquired taste)
Soft Machine- Soft Machine 1, 2, 3, maybe Live At The Paradiso and Middle Earth Masters too
Weather Report- Black Market
Herbie Hancock- Sextant, Headhunters
Uriah Heep- Salisbury, Look At Yourself
Jethro Tull- Thick As A Brick
 
Have been very impressed by Don Airey's work in Deep Purple in recent times. There's a keyboard slot on their DVD of the 2006 Montreux show they played which is superb (very 'Take A Pebble') and he's put a bit of fire back in the band; I think Jon Lord was going through the motions for years, personally. I like Peter Robinson's work with Brand X and Quatermass as well. I think Robinson turns up on some Phil Collins' solo work- I seem to recall he's on 'Hello I Must Be Going'???
 
I must be missing something with Jordan Rudess. I have all of the DT albums he's played on and I can't say there is much on them which has really blown me away- I hear a lot of flash but relatively little of this has made an impact on me. What would fans recommend?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2007 at 08:07
I grew up on vintage prog and am also a huge keyboard fanatic.  I see a few people suggesting keyboardists that you are probably well aware of.  LOL
A couple of new guys that haven't been mentioned Nibandh Nadkarni of Parallel Mind and Tim Drumheller and Rick Eddy of a Triggering Myth.  Both discovered by me thanks to the Archives!


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We're all happy to help!


If you like Keith Emerson, try Rick Wakeman (they're the best of friends as far as I know), get his "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" album, or "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" album.
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