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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Pink Floyd needs more 17/8 time stuff :D
 
Now that...would be impressive.
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This guy from interview,told that he hate 7/4! It's irregular tempo. It's genius. I would like to ask you,guys,is that the real tempo of Dance on a Volcano?I thought it is 5/4???
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Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

They may not be a bunch of crazy elf hat wearing, jazz worshipping, mellotron virtuosos, but they're still a load of dumb-ass concept writing, lengthy, w**kthy, keyboard experimenting, pretentious b*****ds, and that's good enough for me.


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^7/4 is irregular?

I must not be on the same planet then.
It's been used for centuries mate. Something tells me that makes it pretty regular.
 
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

They may not be a bunch of crazy elf hat wearing, jazz worshipping, mellotron virtuosos, but they're still a load of dumb-ass concept writing, lengthy, w**kthy, keyboard experimenting, pretentious b*****ds, and that's good enough for me.


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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

They may not be a bunch of crazy elf hat wearing, jazz worshipping, mellotron virtuosos, but they're still a load of dumb-ass concept writing, lengthy, w**kthy, keyboard experimenting, pretentious b*****ds, and that's good enough for me.


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Whis, you made David happyBig%20smile
 
That's what SHE said! Ha! ...Wait, what...?
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^I ain't no woman.........Ya damn womanLOL
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heavy pork
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Well, if nothing else, it must contain the most insulting defense of prog and/or Pink Floyd ever compiled on this site.

Edited by The Whistler - October 09 2008 at 04:27
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No,I mean something else,but I don't know the word and that's why I used irregular
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I mean not 4/4,but 7/4!
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

heavy pork


 
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Is that what you were saying mang?
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listen mang, I don't have to take that    ..mang
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As he mentions his students, I can't help but pitty these poor souls who have to accept such unsubstntiated drivel from a tutor/Teacher(?). Very worrying that someone with such a strangely twisted rhetoric is allowed to shape minds. Perhaps he's a coach for the 'X Factor'?



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To me it seems that the article is not about pink floyd rather bashing on different prog bands. Maybe he has had some bad experiences with prog, maybe prog raped his mother and burned his house down who knows? I just think he would feel much better if someone gave him a hug and put on fragile on the turntable HugWink

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"Genesis' Dance on a Volcano nearly made my A-level students sick when I played it to them as an example of prog rock. The ponderous 7/4 theme is genuinely queasy"
 
That is just nonsense.
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Back to the topic...

Is Pink Floyd prog?

This is such an easy answer: For the most part.

Just like Yes.  Just like Genesis.  Just like Kansas.  Just like nearly every band who traversed the 1980s.

Almost every band here with an impressive discography has albums which are decidedly not prog, reflecting either the band's desire to reach a larger market or the record label's desire for the same (usually the latter, I understand).

Sure Pink Floyd has Wish You Were Here, Animals, and The Wall to name a few, which are prime examples of progressive rock (although not symphonic rock), but they also have The Final Cut, A Momentary Lapse of Reason, and The Division Bell, which are not.

Therefore, the more efficient way to ask the question is not "Is X band prog?" but "Which of X band's albums are prog?"
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Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Some stupid hack on the Guardian website has deemed it necessary to attack our beloved prog all over again:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2008/oct/08/pink.floyd.not.prog.rock

He obviously doesn't have a clue what wonderful music falls under the prog umbrella! As usual, the best thing about this silly article are the reactions from those who come to prog's defense - including yours truly.

Rock on.

ADMIN EDIT: made reference into a real link.


Actually I agree with the article - at least in this basic determination, as far as his criticism of the prog bands concerned I don't agree at all. Once again we have a situation where "Prog" is not used as a catch-all phrase for everything that could be associated with the word "progressive". In the context of the article it stands for Classic Symphonic Prog Rock, which is seen by many as the nucleus of the Prog movement.

I think we can all agree that Pink Floyd were very different from Yes or Genesis, at least in the early 70s. For me they never were part of the "style" called Prog, and neither were Frank Zappa or Magma, for example.


Edited by MikeEnRegalia - October 09 2008 at 10:25
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