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    Posted: October 21 2008 at 03:33
Don't know if this has been done before but it seems an interesting one for me and a nice challenge for anyone to put the 21 sub genres (actually 22 categories but various is not really a genre of course) of our site in order of your preference/taste. And to add another aspect to it you can name the band you think is significant for the genre. This doesn't have to be the best or biggest or your most favourite band but it's supposed to be the band that fits the sub genre the best (in your opinion of course). Good Luck. And if you think this is (too) hard you can check your profile(the pie), this could lead you the way ! Oh and also have a look in the different subgenres. For the bands and just to learn more about them. Really interesting way to check out and contingently listen stream songs !
 
Btw  I will give the example:
 
1. Neo Progressive (Satellite)
2. Prog metal (Threshold)
3. Symphonic Prog (Yes)
4. Heavy Prog (Tiles)
5. Psychedelic/Space (Ozric Tentacles)
6. Jazz Rock/Fusion (Brand X)
7. Prog related (Led Zeppelin)
8. Crossover (Moody Blues)
9. Progressive electronic (Tangerine Dream)
10. Canterbury Scene (Caravan)
11. Proto-prog (Procol Harum)
12. Tech/extreme prog metal (Meshuggah)
13. Prog Folk (Jethro Tull)
14. Indo-prog/Raga Rock (?)
15. Experimental/post metal (Anathema)
16. Post Rock/Math Rock (Sigur Ros)
17. Krautrock (Can)
18. Eclectic prog (VanderGraaf Generator)
19. Italian Symphonic Prog (PFM)
20. RIO Avant-prog (Frank Zappa)
21. Zeuhl (Magma)
 
I hope we can keep things civilized. This is not about loving or hating sub genres and to kick each others *ss. Just to give a view on each members' taste/preferences/order of sub genres.
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I'll basically just turned yours upside down. Some of these were almost impossible to choose one band from:

1. RIO Avant-prog (Art Zoyd)
2. Jazz Rock/Fusion (Miles Davis)
3. Canterbury Scene (Soft Machine)
4. Krautrock (Can)
5. Eclectic prog (Van der Graaf Generator)
6. Zeuhl (Magma)
7. Progressive electronic (Tangerine Dream)
8. Italian Symphonic Prog (Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso)
9. Heavy Prog (High Tide)
10. Prog Folk (Extradition)
11. Psychedelic/Space (Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes)
12. Indo-prog/Raga Rock (Andre Fertier's Clivage)
13. Symphonic Prog (Genesis)
14. Experimental/post metal (Kayo Dot)
15. Proto-prog (The Beatles)
16. Prog related (Vangelis)
17. Crossover (Radiohead)
18. Post Rock/Math Rock (Tortoise)
19. Tech/extreme prog metal (Enslaved)
20. Prog metal ()
21. Neo Progressive ()



Edited by Rocktopus - October 28 2008 at 19:46
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1. Symphonic Prog (Genesis)
2. Eclectic Prog (King Crimson)
3. Italian Symphonic Prog (Banco del Mutuo Soccorso)
4. Psychedelic/Space Rock (Pink Floyd)
5. Prog Related (Queen)
6. Krautrock (Amon Duul II)
7. Proto-Prog (The Who)
8. Crossover (Talk Talk)
9. Zeuhl (Magma)
10. Post Rock (Explosions in the Sky)
11. Prog Metal (Dream Theater)
12. Heavy Prog (Porcupine Tree)
13. Neo Progressive (Marillion)
14. RIO/Avant (Sleepytime Gorilla Museum)
15. Progressive Electronic (Kraftwerk)
16. Canterbury (Caravan)
17. Prog Folk (Gryphon)
18. Indo Prog/Raga Rock (John McLaughlin)
19. Jazz Rock/Fusion (Mahavishnu Orchestra)
20. Experimental/Post Metal (Tool)
21. Tech/Extreme Prog Metal (Opeth)


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1. Eclectic prog (King Crimson)
2. RIO Avant-prog (Frank Zappa)
3. Heavy Prog (Porcupine Tree)
4. Symphonic Prog (Camel)
5. Psychedelic/Space (Pink Floyd)
6. Zeuhl (Magma)
7. Prog metal (Pain of Salvation)
8. Experimental/post metal (Devin Townsend)
9. Jazz Rock/Fusion (Return to Forever)
10. Crossover (Moody Blues)
11. Prog Folk (Jethro Tull)
12. Proto-prog (The Beatles)
13. Canterbury Scene (Caravan)
14. Prog related (Black Sabbath)
15. Italian Symphonic Prog (PFM)
16. Neo Progressive (IQ)
17. Progressive electronic (they all sound the same)
18. Krautrock (Ash Ra Tempel)
19. Indo-prog/Raga Rock (yeah, don't know any)
20. Tech/extreme prog metal (Meshuggah)
21. Post Rock/Math Rock (Sigur Ros)


Whew, got it right this time. That'll teach me to try to reconcile this site and Word...


Edited by LiquidEternity - October 21 2008 at 10:28
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1. Symphonic Prog (Yes)
2. Prog metal (Ayreon)
3. Heavy Prog (Rush, but definitely a shout out to Tiles)
4. Neo Progressive (Sylvan)
5. Crossover (Presto Ballet)
6. Prog related (Saga)
7. Jazz Rock/Fusion (Planet X)
8. Psychedelic/Space (Nektar)
9. Proto-prog (Deep Purple)
10. Eclectic prog (The Tangent (at least while they are still there))
11. Canterbury Scene (Caravan)
12. Prog Folk (Jethro Tull)
13. RIO Avant-prog (Henry Cow)
14. Progressive electronic (Tangerine Dream)
15. Experimental/post metal (DeadSoul Tribe)
16. Tech/extreme prog metal (Voivod)
17. Italian Symphonic Prog (PFM)
18. Krautrock (Guru Guru)
19. Zeuhl (Magma)
20. Post Rock/Math Rock (Battles)
21. Indo-prog/Raga Rock (?)
 
I mostly listen to the top 10 genres that I listed.  With the next 5 genres I have a few albums from each category, but I rarely listen to them. The last 6 categories I almost never listen to, or have never listened to.
 
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  1. Eclectic prog - King Crimson
  2. Symphonic prog - Yes
  3. Tech/extrem prog metal - Opeth
  4. Avant garde/Rio - Sleepytime Gorilla Museum
  5. Heavy prog - The Mars Volta
  6. Psychedelic/space rock - Pink Floyd
  7. Prog related - Kate Bush
  8. Prog Folk - Jethro Tull
  9. Experimental/ post metal - Tool
  10. Zeuhl - Magma
  11. Jazz rock/Fusion - Return to forever
  12. Post rock/math rock - Sigur ros
  13. Proto prog - The Beatles
  14. Canterbury - Hatfield and the north
  15. Krautrock - Neu!
  16. Italian Symphonic prog - Loccanda Delle Fate
  17. Prog metal - Pain of Salvation
  18. Crossover prog - Radiohead
  19. Neo progressive - IQ
  20. Electronic prog - Brian Eno
  21. Indo raga... I have heard nothing...Embarrassed
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1. Tech/Extreme Prog Metal - Gojira
2. Experimental/Post Metal - Neurosis
3. Eclectic Prog - King Crimson
4. Rio/Avant-Prog - Kayo Dot
5. Post Rock/Math Rock - Sigur Ros
6. Psychedelic/Space Rock - Pink Floyd
7. Proto-Prog - The Beatles
8. Crossover Prog - Radiohead
9. Neo-Progressive - Marillion
10. Progressive Metal - Beyond Twilight
11. Heavy Prog - The Mars Volta
12. Prog Related - Black Sabbath
13. Jazz Rock/Fusion - Miles Davis
14. Progressive Electronic - Brian Eno
15. Symphonic Prog - Yes
16. Prog Folk - Jeethro Tull
17. Zeuhl - Magma
18. Krautrock - Can
19. Canterbury Scene - Soft Machine
20. Italian Symphonic Prog - ?
21. Indo-Prog/Raga Rock - ?
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Too much like hard work, but my reviews have covered most of them and they go in this order:
 
  Sub-genre Nb of reviews Avg rating
1 RIO/Avant-Prog 77 3.81
2 Krautrock 30 3.53
3 Progressive Electronic 24 3.54
4 Canterbury Scene 23 3.65
5 Zeuhl 21 3.81
6 Eclectic Prog 10 3.70
7 Post Rock/Math rock 4 3.75
8 Crossover Prog 3 3.33
9 Symphonic Prog 3 3.33
10 Prog Folk 2 3.50
11 Psychedelic/Space Rock 2 4.00
12 Neo-Progressive 1 3.00
13 Progressive Metal 1 3.00
14 Italian Symphonic Prog 1 3.00
15 Jazz Rock/Fusion 1 3.00
16 Indo-Prog/Raga Rock 1 4.00
17 Prog Related 1 4.00
 
Which is a pretty good approximation, except that Zeuhl would be joint first with RIO.
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1- Canterbury scene (Soft Machine)
2- Krautrock (Can)
3- Psychedelic/Space rock (Hawkwind)
4- Eclectic Prog (Van der Graaf Generator)
5- Jazz rock/fusion (Nucleus/Return to Forever)
6- Zeuhl (Magma)
7- Symphonic prog (Genesis)
8- RIO/avant (Samla Mammas Manna/Univers Zero)
9- Prog folk (Comus)
10- Italian Symphonic (Banco)
11- Electronic (Tangerine Dream)
12- Post rock/math rock (Godspeed you black emperor)
13- Crossover prog (Supertramp)
14- Proto Prog (The Beatles)
15- Neo-prog (Marillion)
16- Prog related (Deep Purple)
17- Prog metal (Opeth)

Dunno enough about Raga prog to put it in.

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Big smile this seems like fun... let's see.
 
The Usual Suspects: Wink
1. Psychedelic/Space (Pink Floyd/Eloy/Hawkwind)
2. Crossover (Peter Gabriel/Mike Oldfield/Talk Talk/David Sylvian/Japan/Immune)
3. Experimental/post metal (Anathema/TheGathering/In The Woods.../Green Carnation)
4. Progressive Electronic (Tangerine Dream)
5. Heavy Prog (Porcupine Tree)
6. Tech/Extreme Prog Metal (Opeth/madder Mortem/Peccatum/Ishahn)
7. Prog Metal (Pain Of Salvation/Ayreon/Riverside/Therion)
8. Symphonic Prog (Genesis/Renaissance/Steve Hackett)
9. Eclectic prog (Van der Graaf Generator/Peter Hammill)
10. Prog Related (Rick Wright)
11. Post Rock/Math Rock (Sigur Ros)
12. Proto-prog (Kaleidoscope/Deep Purple)
13. Krautrock (Amon Duul II/Can)
14. Italian Symphonic Prog (Le Orme)
15. Canterbury Scene (Kevin Ayers/Hatfiled's)
16. Neo Progressive (Sally French)
17. Zeuhl (Magma)
18. Jazz Rock/Fusion (Mahavishnu Orchestra)
19. RIO Avant-prog (Fred Frith/Slapp Happy/Henry Cow)
20. Prog Folk (Dead Can Dance)
21. Indo-prog/Raga Rock (Shakti)
 
 
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1. Post Rock/Math Rock
2. RIO/Avant Prog
3. Psychedelic/Space Rock
4. Heavy Prog
5. Crossover Prog
6. Jazz-Rock Fusion
7. Proto-Prog
8. Prog Related
9. Prog Folk
10. Eclectic Prog
11. Symphonic Prog
12. Canterbury Scene
13. Krautrock
14. Progressive Electronic
15. Zeuhl
16. Neo-Progressive
17. Italian Symphonic Prog
18. Prog-Metal
19. Experimental/Post-Metal
 
And I have no clue about anything to do with Tech Metal or Indo-Prog, so I'm not even gonna go there!
The bands would kill me trying to put em in, so no dice.
 
Nice to see everyone else's lists though, cool thread!
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I only included genres that I feel I have sufficient knowledge of. No reason to put a genre in the list based on one band.
 
1. Tech/Extreme Prog Metal
2. Experimental/Post Metal
3. Eclectic Prog
4. Crossover Prog
5. Prog Related
6. Symphonic Prog
7. Progressive Metal
8. Post Rock/Math Rock
9. Neo-Prog
10. Heavy Prog
11. Proto-Prog
12. Prog Folk
13. RIO/Avant-Prog
14. Italian Symphonic Prog
15. Progressive Electronic
 
I guess I should listen to more of that Canterbury Scene that everyone seems to adore.

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  1. Crossover (Mike Oldfield)
  2. Heavy Prog (Rush)
  3. Symphonic Prog (Genesis)
  4. Prog metal (Fates Warning)
  5. Jazz Rock/Fusion (Mahavishnu Orchestra)
  6. Tech/extreme prog metal (Cynic)
  7. Experimental/post metal (Tool)
  8. Prog related (Vangelis)
  9. Progressive electronic (Kraftwerk)
  10. Eclectic prog (Van der Graaf Generator)
  11. Proto-prog (The Beatles)
  12. Prog Folk (Jethro Tull)
  13. Indo-prog/Raga Rock (Shakti)
  14. Psychedelic/Space (Ozric Tentacles)
  15. RIO Avant-prog (Sleepytime Gorilla Museum)
  16. Neo Progressive (Marillion)
  17. Post Rock/Math Rock (Sigur Ros)
  18. Zeuhl (Magma)
  19. Krautrock (Amon Düül II)
  20. Canterbury Scene (Soft Machine)
  21. Italian Symphonic Prog (?)

Sorry for the links that go nowhere, I copy-pasted this from Word and don't know how to get rid of them. As for Italian Symph, I have no idea where to put this; I'm not really familiar with even one band from the genre, but to me it just seems like Symphonic Prog like any other.


Edited by splyu - October 22 2008 at 08:24
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1. Eclectic prog (Gentle Giant)
2. Symphonic Prog (Yes)
3. Prog Folk (Jethro Tull)
4. Prog metal (Tool)
5. Heavy Prog (Rush)
6. Psychedelic/Space (Floyd)
7. Prog related (Led Zeppelin)
8. Crossover (Roger Waters ?)
9. Canterbury Scene (Caravan)
10. Tech/extreme prog metal (Opeth)
11. Experimental/post metal (65 Days Of Static)


To be honest its Just a load of Symphonic and Eclectic bands, all the obvious ones Crimson, Gensesis etc, then the Bands in brackets but not the genre. Basically I only like Symphonic prog and Eclectic prog, then some 10 or something other bands that are a different bit of prog.
My two favourite bands Are Gentle Giant and Jethro Tull, but Floyd, Genesis, Crimson, Yes, Rush, ELP and Camel are up there too, then Tool and Mars Volta.

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1. Eclectic - King crimson
2. Symphonic - Renaissance
3. Space - Pink floyd
4. Krautrock - can / Amon duul II
5. Zeuhl - Magma
6. Folk - Comus
7. Rio - Henry cow
8. Canterbury - Soft machine
9. Italian - Banco
10. Heavy - rush
11. Post rock - Sigur ros
12. Neo - Magenta
13. Electronics - Vangelis
14. Crossover - Deep purple
15. proto prog - Moody blues
16. prog related - Kate Bush
17. Jazz - Chick Corea
 
I don't know enough of the rest .
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1. RIO/Avant-Prog   (Henry Cow)
2. Zeuhl    (Magma)
3. Heavy Prog    (Rush)
4. Eclectic Prog   (King Crimson)
5. Progressive Electronic    (Tangerine Dream)
6. Symphonic Prog    (The Flower Kings)
7. Crossover Prog     (Radiohead)
8. Jazz Rock/Fusion      (Mahavishnu Orchestra)
9. Prog Folk       (Jethro Tull)
10. Prog Metal     (Dream Theater)
11. Canterbury Scene       (Soft Machine, Gong)
12. Psychedelic/Space Rock      (Ozric Tentacles)
13. Prog-Related     (Jean Michel Jarre)
14. Neo Progressive     (Marillion)
15. Tech/Extreme Prog Metal     (Opeth)
16. Italian Symphonic Prog    (Le Orme)
17. Krautrock     (Can)
18. Experimental/Post-Metal     (Tool)
19. Post Rock/Math Rock    (GYBE)
20. Proto-prog
21. Indo-Prog/Raga Rock
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1. Symphonic Prog (Genesis)
2. Crossover Prog (Steely Dan)
3. Prog-Related (King's X)
4. Jazz Rock/ Fusion (Santana)
5. Eclectic Prog (King Crimson)
6. RIO/ Avant-Prog (Captain Beefheart)
7. Psychedelic/ Space Rock (Pink Floyd)
8. Proto-Prog  (The Beatles)
9. Heavy Prog (Rush)
10. Canterbury Scene (Soft Machine)
11. Krautrock (Amon Duul II)
12. Prog Folk (Jethro Tull)
13. Experimental/ Post Metal (Tool)
14. Prog Metal (Galactic Cowboys)
15. Zeuhl (Magma)
16. Progressive Electronic (Kraftwerk)
17. Post Rock/ Math Rock (Explosions In the Sky)
18.Tech/ Extreme Prog Metal (Watchtower)
19. Italian Symphonic Prog (Cherry Five)
20. Indo-Prog/ Raga Rock (Shakti)
21. Neo Progressive (Pendragon)
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* I hope everyone realises that we are all working on cracking the Prog Code here. Once all of these genres have been slotted into the sequence that everyone agrees is the correct harmonic order then the Universe will be de-stabilised and the secrets of the Prog will be unlocked for all the world to marvel at. The Prog battalions will rise up: Neo will join forces with Zeuhl; Extreme Tech Metal will meld with Symphonic and Eclectic Prog, Math Rock will form an alliance with Prog Related, Proto Prog will realise it is really only Space/Psyche; Crossover will crossover to Post Metal; Heavy will form an alliance with Electronic; Krautrock will form a triumvirate with Prog Metal and Jazz Rock/Fusion and Canterbury will be twined with Rome (meanwhile... Raga will be a conscientious objector). Together we shall cross the Main stream and march upon the plains of popular music crushing all in our path to the mighty blast of 21st Century Schizoid Man from our super-charged iPods...

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Originally posted by progrules progrules wrote:

And to add another aspect to it you can name the band you think is significant for the genre. This doesn't have to be the best or biggest or your most favourite band but it's supposed to be the band that fits the sub genre the best (in your opinion of course).


Oh, I just wrote my favorite band from each genre.

Wouldn't pick Catherine Ribeiro, as the most representative although she's my favorite in psych/space. She might as well have been in Progfolk. Neither is Soft Machine the most fitting Canterbury band.
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1. Progressive-metal (Dream Theater)
2. Symphonic Prog (Genesis)
3. Tech/Extreme metal (Enslaved)
4. Neo Progressive (Marillion -Fish's-)
5. Prog-related (MetallicaEvil Smile/Iron Maiden)
6. Psych/space (Pink Floyd)
7. Heavy Prog (Porcupine Tree)
8. Crossover prog (Three)
9. Exp/post metal (Devin Townsend)
10. Post Rock (Mogwai)
11. Proto-prog (The Doors)
12. Eclectic Prog (King Crimson)
13.  Italian prog (PFM) 
14. Prog Folk (Jethro Tull)
15. Zeuhl (Magma)
16. Progressive electronic (?)
17. RIO Avant-prog  
18. Krautrock (Can)
19. Indo-prog/Raga Rock (?)
20. Jazz Rock/Fusion (Brand X)
21. Canterbury Scene
 
 
I haven't heard any Canterbury or Indo prog so those are last. Jazz I like as Jazz. Fusion with rock doesn't please me. And I've listed my favorite bands.
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