Toto: An example of Fake Prog or Prog Related?

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   Toto is not a Prog band. Or better... I have noticed that more and more Toto is a name that is associated with Prog, especially when you have to give prizes. 

Certainly they have written some Prog songs. But this does not mean that they are Prog. 

Then I remember well an old thread. And I agree fully with the analysis that Toto is not a Prog band. 

But I'm noticing a lot of inconsistencies between different sources: those who consider Toto an AOR band and those who are considered Toto a Prog band. Trying to interpret both sources believed what I have just opened this thread asking me a question:

Are Toto a sort of Prog Related band, so as to justify their inclusion in competitions for Prog music?

And if this can be (also) just... is a proper reason (though not too much) for considering Toto a band for PA?

Because I'm noticing that often (too often) Toto is considered a prog band (today) because it uses only heavy arrangements... And Toto use them. (and today this is a motive because a Rock band be considered Prog!)

P.s.: I think that Toto are an example of Prog Related because too often Toto are used by people who do not know what the prog as an example of Neo Prog! This is wrong. 

But I think it is right to discuss and Toto still give a clear answer in the light of what I wrote above. I would not say more.

Edited by Mandrakeroot - April 06 2009 at 04:29

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Mandrakeroot Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851	Topic: Toto: An example of Fake Prog or Prog Related? Posted: April 06 2009 at 04:11
	Toto is not a Prog band. Or better... I have noticed that more and more Toto is a name that is associated with Prog, especially when you have to give prizes. Certainly they have written some Prog songs. But this does not mean that they are Prog. Then I remember well an old thread. And I agree fully with the analysis that Toto is not a Prog band. But I'm noticing a lot of inconsistencies between different sources: those who consider Toto an AOR band and those who are considered Toto a Prog band. Trying to interpret both sources believed what I have just opened this thread asking me a question: Are Toto a sort of Prog Related band, so as to justify their inclusion in competitions for Prog music? And if this can be (also) just... is a proper reason (though not too much) for considering Toto a band for PA? Because I'm noticing that often (too often) Toto is considered a prog band (today) because it uses only heavy arrangements... And Toto use them. (and today this is a motive because a Rock band be considered Prog!) P.s.: I think that Toto are an example of Prog Related because too often Toto are used by people who do not know what the prog as an example of Neo Prog! This is wrong. But I think it is right to discuss and Toto still give a clear answer in the light of what I wrote above. I would not say more. Edited by Mandrakeroot - April 06 2009 at 04:29

Kotro Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: August 16 2004 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 2815	Posted: April 06 2009 at 04:28
	Mandy: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=56298&KW=toto
	Bigger on the inside.

Mandrakeroot Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851	Posted: April 06 2009 at 04:34
	[QUOTE=Kotro]Mandy: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=56298&KW=toto[/QUOTE] I know the thread of the link. Here, however, I would like a discussion to determine if the light of new guidance on whether are Prog or not Toto are considered a right band for PR or not. And, therefore, if Toto merit the inclusion in PA or not. And this without further discussion (controversial or not).

omri Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 1250	Posted: April 06 2009 at 08:59
	As Ghost rider once described Camel : Toto plays music which is nice for the less demanding (people, mood, etc...). Well, Camel are much more demanding than Toto. Personally I think this is the place to draw the line (and leave Toto on the other side of it). my 2 cents
	omri