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Mandrakeroot 
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 Topic: Vanilla Fudge or Iron Butterfly?
Posted: April 13 2009 at 17:24 |
Vanilla Fudge and Iron Butterfly... Two bands from USA that in PA are listed as Proto-Prog but that for me are two great example of Psychedelic Heavy Prog.
But Prog or Proto-Prog... Which of these two bands is your favorite?
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BroSpence
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Posted: April 13 2009 at 17:37 |
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both were awesome, I've heard more VF though.
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tszirmay
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Posted: April 13 2009 at 22:06 |
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Bogert and Appice ruled with the Fudge. Never liked Butterfly , sorry.
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jammun
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Posted: April 13 2009 at 22:40 |
I go for the Iron Butterfly, which surely never soared very high.
But VF was mostly about long, overwrought covers, whereas the Butterfly had some almost excellent originals (In The Time of Our Lives comes to mind).
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: April 14 2009 at 00:47 |
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Give me the Butterfly any day. Vanilla Fudge just doesn't do that much for me, comparatively.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: April 14 2009 at 07:30 |
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Vanilla Fudge for me. Members of my fav bands, Uriah Heep and Deep Purple, recalled Fudge was a big influence for them.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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crimhead
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Posted: April 14 2009 at 13:23 |
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I went with both. Each found a niche in it's time.
Edited by crimhead - May 18 2009 at 11:30
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: April 14 2009 at 17:28 |
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Both are great . Thatīs my vote
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manofmystery
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Posted: April 14 2009 at 17:48 |
Big fan of Renaissance by Vanilla Fudge. It beats out anything by I-ron Butterfly, even if they did have a classic Simpsons moment.
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el dingo
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Posted: April 16 2009 at 04:22 |
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My love of Captain Beyond pointed me towards Butterfly, but what the heck, I went for both.
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 16 2009 at 04:49 |
You've never lived until you've had iron fudge with a vanilla butterfly in it. 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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el dingo
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Posted: April 16 2009 at 04:59 |
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: April 16 2009 at 11:24 |
 el dingo wrote:
My love of Captain Beyond pointed me towards Butterfly, but what the heck, I went for both. |
Love of Captain Beyond will never steer you wrong!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 16 2009 at 11:30 |
VF all the way
I only like IB's debut album and Metamorphosis as well, but it doesb't come close to Renaissance and Near The Beginning
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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el dingo
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Posted: April 16 2009 at 11:55 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
el dingo wrote:
My love of Captain Beyond pointed me towards Butterfly, but what the heck, I went for both. |
Love of Captain Beyond will never steer you wrong! |
Unless you're Dancing Madly Backwards, of course... 
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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moshkito
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Posted: April 16 2009 at 15:07 |
Hi,
IB was way more important than VF ever was ...
IB also was one of the very first things to help start/inaugurate FM radio in those days, when it was known for "long cuts", a lot of which became the very fabric of the progressive stuff that we love so much.
VF was more of a party band and noise by comparison. And they were not worth it in concert. You should have saved your money and gone to see Spirit or even It's a Beautiful Day.
VF had songs. IB had music!
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Leftoverture
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Posted: May 17 2009 at 22:13 |
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I like both, but if push came to shove, it'd be Iron Butterfly
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: May 18 2009 at 01:54 |
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Vanilla Fudge have an overall better catalogue such as Beatles covers and You Keep me Hangin On. However Iron Butterfly's In a Gadda Da Vida is simply legendary so I am not sure - at a stab I say Vanilla Fudge... only just.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: May 18 2009 at 01:58 |
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Couldn't get into either despite my best efforts.
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crimhead
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Posted: May 18 2009 at 11:31 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
You've never lived until you've had iron fudge with a vanilla butterfly in it.
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Doesn't Iron fudge weigh heavy on ones stomach?
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