Rodrigo San Martin (Symphonic Rock from Argentina) |
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Inthecage
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Topic: Rodrigo San Martin (Symphonic Rock from Argentina) Posted: June 13 2010 at 14:27 |
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This guy (21 years old) is a guitarist multi instrumentalist from Buenos Aires. He released his debut album this year (2010) called "1", where he composed, played every instrument, sang produced, mixed and mastered all by himself. It's also the first Argentine album in Surround Sound. The music's influenced by Porcupine Tree, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Yes, Mike Oldfield and Genesis. The album is available as a free download. Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/rsanmartin Album Download: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=99945835c4068628b64026cfc061123698842e5df698ffa2f7e866bfb1230ce0 |
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: June 14 2010 at 02:48 | ||
Now checkin', thanks! :-)
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: June 14 2010 at 03:32 | ||
Wow, wonderful! Warm, comfortable but highly tense sound bombs he can shoot ... Not enough Symph nor enough Heavy but may be fit for Eclectic or Crossover IMO. |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 14 2010 at 05:11 | ||
It's not an easy case to categorize, indeed, but I'll ask the Symph Team to be the first to evaluate this suggestion. Thanks
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 14 2010 at 06:29 | ||
Rodrigo San Martín sounds like Porcupine tree, or Anathema, even Riverside at times though a commercial melody threaded through it - perhaps a crossover genre.
It is not complex enough for symphonic
"No" features wah wah guitars, some distortion, sustained keypads, clean English vocals, instrumental is acoustic and piano then a melodic chorus and wah wah guiatr solo at end. great music, rather more commercial than symph.
"Phase 3" has heavy guitar riff that chuggs as clean vocals are sung.
"Circe" has harmonic guitar intro and some nice trilling, picking style. acoustic plays as vocals gently sung love centred lyrics, "to see, to hold you in my hands, she refuses to see, the world as a ????" she refuses to accept what others take for granted.... she refuses to see her world..." A pretty ballad
"Blues in E" has a great heavy distorted guitar riff and some nice lead licks in between verses. The time sig changes intermittently and this is more proggy than others i heard. The Hammond sustained chords are very nice. "Who the hell do you think I am, why dont you tell me what are you gonna do" he sings. Lead solo is excellent. Best song I think.
Heavy prog would suit this too from this song. As heavy as Rush or PTree at least.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 14 2010 at 09:54 | ||
About Rodrigo San Martin, in first place I don't trust too much in a band that claims this number of influences:
Please, nobody plays all this styles, as a fact I hear nothing of Genesis, Gabriel, Oldfield, Tull, Queen, King Crimson, ELP, Zappa, Rush, Hackett, Howe, Bellew or The Who. Maybe something of Pink Foyd and Porcupine Tree, IMO mostly Alternative/Indie.with a bit of Porcupine Tree.
I believe Prog Related at the most, not remotely related to Symphonic.
Iván
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 14 2010 at 10:20 | ||
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Inthecage
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Posted: June 14 2010 at 10:51 | ||
I agree, those are his influences while making music, that doesn't mean he sounds like any of them, in fact he sounds quite like himself. Has any of you heard the full album? I think I'll surprise you. It's an album length track. I guess with something so difficult to categorize it's worth a listen, |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 14 2010 at 18:06 | ||
Heard the free album from the link you sent.
My opinion hasn't changed
Iván
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 15 2010 at 04:26 | ||
That's true Scott, "influences" means more things, not just "similarities". I agree with you. BTW, if you (as a genre team) reject a suggestion thinking they could have a better chance for another genre, you need to post in that team thread and ask for a evaluation, giving link to the initial suggestion. |
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 15 2010 at 04:28 | ||
Ok will pass onto prog related as Ivan and I are in agreeance with that.
Thanks
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: June 15 2010 at 05:23 | ||
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 15 2010 at 09:13 | ||
What does that mean? I am more puzzled now?
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Inthecage
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Posted: June 15 2010 at 10:44 | ||
Prog related seems a little harsh to me, sounds like "Not enough prog to be a prog band" haha You're right, I don't think it's Symphonic anymore, I guess I'd call it Crossover, since it uses a lot prog elements that are not necessarily in the same sub genre. |
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: June 16 2010 at 18:53 | ||
Of course, I think he should be progressive (nearly 100% methinks) so he can be fit for Crossover or Eclectic (as a mixture of Hev and Symph). Edited by DamoXt7942 - June 16 2010 at 18:55 |
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Inthecage
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Posted: June 27 2010 at 15:44 | ||
I agree. So, how do we call the eclectic team? |
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memowakeman
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Posted: December 09 2010 at 18:52 | ||
Hi, what is the status of this suggestion? I've listened to the album and he truly deserves a place here.
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Andy Webb
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Posted: April 04 2011 at 10:28 | ||
I think that Crossover would be best for this band. I think PR would be a bit harsh, seeing as it is obviously prog, just not prog enough for symphonic.
Edited by andyman1125 - April 04 2011 at 10:28 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: April 11 2011 at 20:14 | ||
Hi Harmonium. Some time ago with Guigo and believe HT also, we notified the Crossover Team and Guigo said the would wait for the response of that team before suggesting Rodrigo to Prof Related. I still believe Prog Related is the best place and don't find it harsh, great bands are there. Iván
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russellk
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Posted: April 17 2011 at 17:03 | ||
I can hear some of the influences. Certainly Porcupine Tree, also Oldfield in the guitar tone, chord changes and the juxtaposition of elements. I'm guessing all those influences were listed in order to increase traffic from searches.
I'm not sure where this music belongs. It's definitely prog rock. I would have said Eclectic myself, possibly crossover. It doesn't fulfill the requirements for prog-related. |
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