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Nice one. I've heard about this jazz trio but I had never listenned to it. My relation with Jazz is curious. I've always prefered written music  to improvised  music.  I often compare Jazz to a great actor. Take Marlon Brando. You can give him the role of Julius Caesar, a cow boy or a docker,  it will always be Marlon Brando. Same voice, Same expression. Noble but a little distant too. Rock is different. It's a B movie actor. Because he has nothing really specific, a new pair of boots and you don't recognize him anymore. That's why RPI or Kautrock are so rich. They can change, look completly new, even dressed in a Jazz costume.
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^I do get what you´re saying, and I feel much the same. That´s probably why, I´ve used all my money on Krautrock and RPI the past 2 yearsWacko 
Both scenes are chameleons - changing colors and patterns, but not necessarily to what´s happening around them in music, but due to all kinds of inspirations. Much like jazz yes (although Krautrock relies more on improv, but that´s not the point).
There´s still an underlying "spirit/soul" in both scenes IMO. 
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Of course Krautrock relies more on improv, but it is rock at the baseWink !
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I dropped this one in the Villa, but for those without access there.....enjoy Mr Basso

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjcyDKQSAjs&feature=related

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The proof that one can sound like philip glass without being also tedious !Smile
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I dropped this one in the Villa, but for those without access there.....enjoy Mr Basso

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjcyDKQSAjs&feature=related

That was amazing! Thank you so much for that, Jim! I didn't realize il maestro had a YT channel, although nothing has been uploaded since 2009.
It is also hearty to read the comments from his students. What a terrific individual!
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Lizzy, I love his piano playing to death....his 80s and 90s work drops the RPI but moves into classical piano stuff and it's great.

I know you love classical segments on prog albums....I found one the other day.  Mark Green has a rousing version of 'Ode to Joy" on his new album, which you can stream from his website.  Smile

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This soundtrack of 1966 by A Trovaioli reminds me a lot of RPI with elements of Rock, Folk, and Classic instruments like harpsichord and organ.
 
 
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^Holy cow harpsichord! Thanks for that, Pierre!:D

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Lizzy, I love his piano playing to death....his 80s and 90s work drops the RPI but moves into classical piano stuff and it's great.

I know you love classical segments on prog albums....I found one the other day.  Mark Green has a rousing version of 'Ode to Joy" on his new album, which you can stream from his website.  Smile

I know, but I didn't get around to his classical piano stuff yet. (I also know I owe you a Cogli il Giorno review, but me and inspiration are not very good buddies at the moment Unhappy)

Thanks for yet another suggestion. Hopefully I'll manage to listen soon. For some reason, I dropped to an average of two-three albums a week.


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Side C, good young band from Verona with some live tracks from their new EP...you can hear both of their EPs on myspace or youtube, or buy CDs from the band.Approve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEGHeNfh7L0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9puw2cAN24&feature=related





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good stuff this is!

 2011 A.D. by I TRENI ALLALBA album cover Studio Album, 2011
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4 stars Folk spirit, fusion prowess, post-punk energy

I Treni All'Alba from Torino are one of Italy's finest bands regardless of how you choose to categorize their eclectic instrumental brew. Their second album is a continuation of their fine debut and if anything may be stronger. These guys are just incredible players! They take folk music appreciation and turn it right on its head. Melodic acoustic numbers are performed by guys who have the prowess of jazz-fusion dudes, then they throw it at you with the energy of a sweaty punk band. That's not to say they can't be gentle and nuanced, for they have that covered too. They have near-perfect instincts for balancing their lively concoction and keeping the listener somewhere between headbanging and eyes-closed bliss. Imagine something like the powerful finesse of Chris Poland's Ohm but in the context of a punk-kissed folk outfit. I don't know how better to put it. The backbone of the group consists of two amazingly talented acoustic guitars played with pure passion and zest, atop imaginative and adrenalin stoked drumming. This is balanced with more serene moments when lovely piano graces the song, in these moments the band seem in searching mode, trying to sort of "find their way" to something expressive and beautiful. They don't spend a whole of time drifting though, as Treni All'Alba is not a band which gathers moss. These boys move. The longest track "L'apocalisse" features quite an interesting and epic acoustic solo while the album's second half brings in more electric guitar and a little heavier sound.

This will be on "best of year" top 10 lists and it deserves to be. The cover art is as striking as the first disc as well. Great work guys!



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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

good stuff this is!

 2011 A.D. by I TRENI ALLALBA album cover Studio Album, 2011
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4 stars Folk spirit, fusion prowess, post-punk energy

I Treni All'Alba from Torino are one of Italy's finest bands regardless of how you choose to categorize their eclectic instrumental brew. Their second album is a continuation of their fine debut and if anything may be stronger. These guys are just incredible players! They take folk music appreciation and turn it right on its head. Melodic acoustic numbers are performed by guys who have the prowess of jazz-fusion dudes, then they throw it at you with the energy of a sweaty punk band. That's not to say they can't be gentle and nuanced, for they have that covered too. They have near-perfect instincts for balancing their lively concoction and keeping the listener somewhere between headbanging and eyes-closed bliss. Imagine something like the powerful finesse of Chris Poland's Ohm but in the context of a punk-kissed folk outfit. I don't know how better to put it. The backbone of the group consists of two amazingly talented acoustic guitars played with pure passion and zest, atop imaginative and adrenalin stoked drumming. This is balanced with more serene moments when lovely piano graces the song, in these moments the band seem in searching mode, trying to sort of "find their way" to something expressive and beautiful. They don't spend a whole of time drifting though, as Treni All'Alba is not a band which gathers moss. These boys move. The longest track "L'apocalisse" features quite an interesting and epic acoustic solo while the album's second half brings in more electric guitar and a little heavier sound.

This will be on "best of year" top 10 lists and it deserves to be. The cover art is as striking as the first disc as well. Great work guys!


 
Thanks for that Jim, i certainly missed that one. Sounds incredible stuff - I'll have to investigate.
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Really enjoyed the "Chocolate Kings" today.I spun it a couple of times.I had forgotten that the former AQUA FRAGILE singer made his vocal debut for PFM on this album.It certainly gave the band a different dynamic with those Gabriel sounding English vocals.I know not everyone likes this one but...
The other PFM i've been enjoying is the "Live In USA" disc.I swear that last tune "Alta Loma Five Till Nine" might be 16 minutes long but you could double that length and i'd be happy.
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Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

Really enjoyed the "Chocolate Kings" today.I spun it a couple of times.I had forgotten that the former AQUA FRAGILE singer made his vocal debut for PFM on this album.It certainly gave the band a different dynamic with those Gabriel sounding English vocals.I know not everyone likes this one but...
The other PFM i've been enjoying is the "Live In USA" disc.I swear that last tune "Alta Loma Five Till Nine" might be 16 minutes long but you could double that length and i'd be happy.
I have always passionately loved "Chocolate Kings"-it has always really clicked with me, and could never understand negativity towards it
             It has  that unique, inimitable PFM coupling of great technique and gutsy emotion
    Never heard LIve in USA-i should check it outTongue
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Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

good stuff this is!

 2011 A.D. by I TRENI ALLALBA album cover Studio Album, 2011
4.13 | 5 ratings

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Review by Finnforest
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4 stars Folk spirit, fusion prowess, post-punk energy

I Treni All'Alba from Torino are one of Italy's finest bands regardless of how you choose to categorize their eclectic instrumental brew. Their second album is a continuation of their fine debut and if anything may be stronger. These guys are just incredible players! They take folk music appreciation and turn it right on its head. Melodic acoustic numbers are performed by guys who have the prowess of jazz-fusion dudes, then they throw it at you with the energy of a sweaty punk band. That's not to say they can't be gentle and nuanced, for they have that covered too. They have near-perfect instincts for balancing their lively concoction and keeping the listener somewhere between headbanging and eyes-closed bliss. Imagine something like the powerful finesse of Chris Poland's Ohm but in the context of a punk-kissed folk outfit. I don't know how better to put it. The backbone of the group consists of two amazingly talented acoustic guitars played with pure passion and zest, atop imaginative and adrenalin stoked drumming. This is balanced with more serene moments when lovely piano graces the song, in these moments the band seem in searching mode, trying to sort of "find their way" to something expressive and beautiful. They don't spend a whole of time drifting though, as Treni All'Alba is not a band which gathers moss. These boys move. The longest track "L'apocalisse" features quite an interesting and epic acoustic solo while the album's second half brings in more electric guitar and a little heavier sound.

This will be on "best of year" top 10 lists and it deserves to be. The cover art is as striking as the first disc as well. Great work guys!


 
Thanks for that Jim, i certainly missed that one. Sounds incredible stuff - I'll have to investigate.
 
Me too - very interested indeed
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^Yep - count me in as well.
The punk-kissed folk outfit sentence made the old nihilist punk in me put on The Pogues after reading the review. 
My god, am I glad I´m not that way anymore, although I still love the music from those days.

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 Piccolo Grande Vecchio Fiume by COCAI, I album cover Studio Album, 1977
 
Piccolo Grande Vecchio Fiume
I Cocai Rock Progressivo Italiano

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3 stars Hi, i can solve a lot about the mystery rewarding this album because i'm the cousin of Gigi Pandy, guitarist and flutist of this band.

This band is from Venezia and this is the only album they've made in their musical life. Today only two members are musicians, the two drummers. In fact the former drummer Tury (nickname for Luigi Turin) had played in all tracks except for "Le mie storie", wich was played by Massimo Iannantuono. Both drummers are still playing in our days, not professionally. The other members are (Theo and Paul, Teo e Paolo Biasutti) are owner of a restaurant close to saint Mark's square. My cousin Gigi (Pierluigi Pandiani) is a cook, he works 'round the town. Despite to some songs, the intentions of the band were not to create a progressive album; if you hear something progressive is for about in the seventies in Italy was difficult to not hear prog rock. The main influence for Cocai (the name means "seagull" in venetian language) were New Trolls, not necessairy the progressive Trolls but the harmonic vocal lines. Other influence were surely Pink Floyd (for Le mie storie), the only track sung by my cousin, others are made by Theo).

The songs are not written by the members but from a team of composers, but I didn't know anything about them. I know that some songs (Milioni d'anni fa and especially Piccolo grande vecchio fiume) were inspired from the Vajont tragedy.

In the past to made a records was very complcated: i remember my cousin and the band work hard but enthusiastically for the release of the album, including the problem of the wrong printed labels. There are some grammar mistakes on the back cover and funny grapich choices, like to write the first insrument in small and the rest in capital words. Believe me, it was a semi-artigianal work, thoug the label was an official label.

I know that this album was reprint on cd; my cousin Gigi did'n t know anything about that. It was a personal discover. The fact is that me, a drummer who works regulary, i've discover music thanks by Gigi. In my family nobody was interested in music, no one plays an instrument. Only him he was a Beatles listener and a guitar player. So I am very grateful to him for that.

Honestly i think this is not a capital album, not a masterpiece, but it's significant for me and it was a big surprise that in japan, Corea,here, on youtube you canl find easily the tracks. Internet is another world: it seems possible that infinitesimally small sliver can survive. So Piccolo grande vecchio fiume is now not only an old, odd lp inside my collection.

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EMILIO LOCURCIO (1977)
 
Ordered this one after reading the Jim's review. Received yesterday. Very good album indeed. The music is beautiful. Maybe the sicilian male singer sings a little too much. But there's a female singer's too and her voice is great.
 
Third song : a long and very nice suite :
 
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