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Steven in Atlanta 
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 Topic: From Giles Giles & Fripp to In the CourtPosted: September 09 2010 at 15:18 |
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What are the sensations and inspirations that could possibly stir such a monumental style shift (in mere months, no less) from GG&F to ITCOTCK? And where can I get some?
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himtroy
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Posted: September 09 2010 at 21:15 |
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LSD? Just kidding. Most innovators have a sudden break through that changes their view on things forever. This clearly happened at some time between the two bands. Too bad we'll never know because if you ask Fripp (which you won't get to) he'll talk about some religious experience, or a vision that came to him....then you'll sit awkwardly and listen, because after all, he is the God that is...Robert Fripp.
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Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance. |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: September 10 2010 at 03:56 |
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Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band.
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seventhsojourn
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Posted: September 11 2010 at 11:37 |
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The genius of Ian McDonald, main songwriter and responsible for most of the frontline instrumentation... and some inspiration from Tony Clarke and The Moody Blues.
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esky
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Posted: September 13 2010 at 17:28 |
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GGF was a hangover from the times that preceded it. ITCOTCK was the next new thing.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: September 13 2010 at 17:34 |
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I don't think there was really a monumental shift in style for the musicians that were on both. Seems like some sort of natural progression for me. The major shift was from majorly silly to rather serious.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Rune2000
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Posted: October 14 2010 at 15:02 |
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Check out this documentary where Fripp talks about his earliest aspiration and more. |
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 15 2010 at 03:13 |
yes quite, the Crimson debut ain't far at all from GG&F in many places.. what actually happened was fairly minor but it caused a kind of breakthrough that allowed real growth from that point on |
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: October 15 2010 at 03:15 |
Great video, really enjoyed it and thanks for posting the critter.  |
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Rune2000
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Posted: October 15 2010 at 03:51 |
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Yeah, it's an awesome mini-documentary that I only discovered recently.
 I just realized that Fripp talks more in detail about Sgt. Pepper's influence in the second part of the video (around 1:15-mark): Here is part 3: Edited by Rune2000 - October 15 2010 at 03:51 |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: October 15 2010 at 04:23 |
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A missing link?
 (Beware Amazon.UK, include Soft Machine as contributing artists to this album which is nonsense)
This includes (Ipresume) demos of tunes that ended up on ITCOCK, and suggest GGF were trying many things in the run up to getting KC together and then recording that classic album.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: October 15 2010 at 05:35 |
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Thanks Alex, that was a delight!
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: October 15 2010 at 19:46 |
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I guess it was probably a combination of boredom, disappointment from the lackluster reception of Cheerful Insanity, and, given the liner notes to Abesnt Lovers, a sense that the music they were doing was, in spite of others like Kevin Ayers and Syd Barrett doing it well, starting to become passé. But that's just a guess based on Fripp's logic on how a musician should grow and adapt.
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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