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Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:13
That´s really interesting how many reports this thread has.
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:25
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Better than having been a fanboy of Elvis when you were a teen. It is one of the dark specks in Jean's biography . Another is having been a Raiderette. To be fair to her: I used to be a fan Heino once , a German singer who is extremely popular with old ladies. Nothing could be more embarrassing than mentioning this. He has a tgood baritone voice though, but his music. I have no diea what came over me at that time of myy admittedly quitre early life. To demonstrate what I am guilty of here a short clip of heino:
washing our dirty linen in public, are we? well, Friede was obviously too ashamed to reveal her equivalent of my having been a Raiderette - she was a Funkenmariechen once! too bad I don't have any evidence of that here; Friede destroyed all photos of her as a Funkenmariechen. her parents have a lot of photos of that monstrosity in their family album Friede was with the Prinzengarde (Prince's guard). in case you don't know what a Funkenmariechen is: they are female dancers in the Cologne carnival. here a short clip of a Fnkenmariechen of the Prinzengarde:
Edited by BaldJean - November 09 2010 at 04:30
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:29
Hawkwise wrote:
The Fact some people 47 people think he's in top 5 of drummers is amazing to me , maybe they not heard many Drummers or maybe they just like him cause they like him. all rather subjective anyway and rather pointless really
Last time i checked music wasn't a sport doesn't matter about whats the score.I couldn't really give a flying fig weather
Another one who thinks that these 47 (me included) are ignorant somehow. That we haven't heard enough drummers probably. Give me a break. jeez.
And I just don't believe you EVER checked if music was a sport or not.
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:32
Snow Dog wrote:
Hawkwise wrote:
The Fact some people 47 people think he's in top 5 of drummers is amazing to me , maybe they not heard many Drummers or maybe they just like him cause they like him. all rather subjective anyway and rather pointless really
Last time i checked music wasn't a sport doesn't matter about whats the score.I couldn't really give a flying fig weather
Another one who thinks that these 47 (me included) are ignorant somehow. That we haven't heard enough drummers probably. Give me a break. jeez.
And I just don't believe you EVER checked if music was a sport or not.
no, just another someone with a different taste. get that into your head
Edited by BaldJean - November 09 2010 at 04:32
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:33
BaldJean wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Hawkwise wrote:
The Fact some people 47 people think he's in top 5 of drummers is amazing to me , maybe they not heard many Drummers or maybe they just like him cause they like him. all rather subjective anyway and rather pointless really
Last time i checked music wasn't a sport doesn't matter about whats the score.I couldn't really give a flying fig weather
Another one who thinks that these 47 (me included) are ignorant somehow. That we haven't heard enough drummers probably. Give me a break. jeez.
And I just don't believe you EVER checked if music was a sport or not.
no, just another someone with a different taste. get that into your head
Am I questioning his taste? Can you read? CAN you get that in your head?
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:38
Jim Garten wrote:
calm it down, people
Ok Jim. I'm out of here. Where does she get off addressing me that way though. "Get that into your head" Whats that about? She thinks I'm a moron or something?
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:40
it is funny, but what you are actually saying is that anyone who does not put Peart among the top five of his or her list of drummers consider you to be ignorant. go wash your head
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:42
BaldJean wrote:
it is funny, but what you are actually saying is that anyone who does not put Peart among the top five of his or her list of drummers consider you to be ignorant. go wash your head
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:47
it appaentlys is. else why your attack on hawkwise? Neil's skills arfe not exceptional at all. you may have a personal preference for him, which I am perfectly fine with, but if you honestly think that his skills exceed that of other great drummers then you are mistaken
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 04:53
BaldJean wrote:
it appaentlys is. else why your attack on hawkwise? I did not attack him.Neil's skills arfe not exceptional at all.Yes they are you may have a personal preference for him, which I am perfectly fine with,thats good of you but if you honestly think that his skills exceed that of other great drummers then you are mistaken no I'm not.
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:16
Snow Dog wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
it is funny, but what you are actually saying is that anyone who does not put Peart among the top five of his or her list of drummers consider you to be ignorant. go wash your head
Is that what I'm actually saying? Wash your eyes.
I understood the same... even worse, I understood that "anyone who does not think that Peart is the best drummer ever is ignorant"...
I know, tastes are tastes and there's no problem about it. You consider Peart the best drummer ever, I'm perfectly fine with it.
But, as I said before, I can name a huge number of drummers I prefer. Speed and even the utmost technique are not important for a drummer: first come feeling, "drive", emotions, a little touch of humour too...
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:32
Whoa... Seems people are very passionet on there dislike of Neil Peart. Well, most critics and fans alike dub him best drummer of all time so your quite outnumbered. He's up there for me. I also have no idea what you all mean when you say he sounds cold or stiff? He's one of the most lively and active drummers ever? To each his own I guess
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 05:46
Bah, there is only one way of dealing with this. Here are a few drum solos by excellent drummers. Mr. SnowDog, the unidsputable expert on drumming, will analyze them and with his superior mind explain in technical detail why Peartg exceeds the others. Mr. Peart first:
Now Jon Hiseman:
Now Pierre Moerlen (ihe takes over after a minute or so):
Now Mani Neumeier:
Now Christian Vander:
Please use technical terms in your analysis. I am absolutely confident that we will all benefit greatly from the insights SnowDog will give us on these solos. Your turn, Mr SnowDog!
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Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:37
OK.
This has really run its course.
Seems to me that if you are not a fan of Rush you won't have taken much time to analyse Peart's drumming and if you are a fan of Rush you might over-estimate his skills.
Safe to say that we know Friede and Jean's opinion on Peart's merits so really why go on repeating them ad nauseam?
Neil Peart is an author and a musician. He gives to good causes and is a good citizen by most everyday measures. His band have sold over 40 million albums and he has built up a sizeable reputation as a technically skilled rock drummer and he has inspired many people to take up the drums. He would like it known that though he doesn't consider himself to be the best drummer in the world, he certainly isn't the worst.
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