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Topic: Is "The Wall" Progressive Rock Posted: February 02 2011 at 13:46 |
Many of Pink Floyd's albums are clearly prog like DSOTM or Animals. The Wall never really appealed to me like Pink Floyd's other great albums and I think it's because it is not very progressive.
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Icarium
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 13:49 |
mayebe more crossover prog and rock operattic idunno
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 13:52 |
Short answer: no
I think the proggiest thing on that album is Wright's synth solo in "Run Like Hell"
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 13:54 |
Ι think yes.
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 14:14 |
Eclectic and at times Symphonic. I would say yes it is very progressive despite a lot of the music not being overly complicated
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 14:48 |
Considering that almost all of it was written by RW, if you consider his solo work prog, then yes. (I think so)
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 14:58 |
I think it has to be considered as a complete piece, not a collection of individual tracks.
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 15:05 |
How is Dark Side of the Moon "clearly prog?"
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 16:02 |
It is literally progressive, but it ain't "prog"
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 16:10 |
Yes, but none of the songs on it is.
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 16:16 |
I think it is not progressive at all.
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 16:26 |
Yep.
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 16:29 |
It is.Not only musicaly but look at the lyrics...
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 17:19 |
Easy Livin wrote:
I think it has to be considered as a complete piece, not a collection of individual tracks. |
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 17:37 |
I don't think it is too progressive....but because of that I do think it is very progressive.
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 18:04 |
Not as progressive as some of their other stuff, but progressive nevertheless.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 18:12 |
The Truth wrote:
Easy Livin wrote:
I think it has to be considered as a complete piece, not a collection of individual tracks. |
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 20:41 |
let prog reign wrote:
Many of Pink Floyd's albums are clearly prog like DSOTM or Animals. The Wall never really appealed to me like Pink Floyd's other great albums and I think it's because it is not very progressive. |
I'll be honest with you ... when definitions tell the world that you are screwed up and you don't know anything, and no one can do anything ... I'm not sure I would not say ... too bad for you ... I wrote the piece, got famous off it and have the millions to show for it, and I don't care if you call it prog, bullsh*t or anything else you want ...
It's the craziest thing ...
Don't start telling me that you only like "progressive" music, because I am not sure you can define it and show it with examples. The Wall might not be "progressive" if you consider just a bunch of songs, but everything else about it, is more progressive than the majority of things that have ever been done ... and that is the reason why it is remembered, and appreciated, and if you decide you don't like it because it ain't progressive enough for your knickers ... too bad!
Can you see the fault with that question now? ... how the fudge would you feel if you had composed that massive piece of music, and then some kid comes up and tells you some words that ... have nothing to do with music, and certainly not anything to do with your own work?
Yeah ... you would flip the kid, too! And I would say on top of it ... I don't need your nickels!
It's not "we don't need no education ... we don't need no thought control ... " ... it's "we don't need your opinions ... we don't need no oppresive ideas ... " ... that are all about ... I can't do something! I can't think of anything more ... unjust ... and a bigger crime ... than say ... I don't like that man's music because he ain't black ... or green ... or blue ... or progressive!
Edited by moshkito - February 02 2011 at 20:43
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 21:17 |
I always like to say - we don't need no education, well how about some grammar lessons? When you say we don't need no education you are really employing a double negative and oh never mind.
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 02 2011 at 21:18
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: February 02 2011 at 22:49 |
I should link this thread to the "prog pet peeves" thread...
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