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Schindleria Praematu 
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 Topic: Chicago VS SantanaPosted: February 06 2011 at 16:46 |
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Both of these bands are the biggest for Jazz/Furion Rock, but who deserves to be the best?
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 18:36 |
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Santana without a doubt
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 18:58 |
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The biggest of jazz fusion?
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PabstRibbon
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 19:25 |
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Progosopher
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 22:20 |
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Santana.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Man With Hat
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 22:25 |
I have to agree on that one.
But, I'd vote for Santana being I think they are the better band...for the most part.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: February 07 2011 at 04:03 |
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I go for early Chicago but when they turned to pop power ballads Santana buries them.
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ten years after
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Posted: February 07 2011 at 04:21 |
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Although there were strong jazz influences i think PA's classification of Santana as Jazz Rock Fusion is stretching the genre somewhat.
IMO Chicago's first three studio albums were slightly better than Santana's first three and Chicago IV is better than Lotus, but not by much. However, Chicago produced nothing of the quality of Caravanserai (few bands have) and Borboletta is also better than anything Chicago produced after Chicago V.
On balance I think the incredible Caravanserai and their magnificent performance at Woodstock just gets Santana over the line. .
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cannon
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Posted: February 07 2011 at 07:10 |
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I kind of see it as Caravanserai/Welcome vs. Chicago Transit Authority/Chicago II. All great jazz rock albums. Caravanserai is brilliant and the best of the four IMO. The nods goes to Santana.
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jean-marie
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Posted: February 07 2011 at 11:15 |
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love both! two great bands but i think chicago is sometimes underated
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yanch
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Posted: February 07 2011 at 12:14 |
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Santana for sure.
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The Pessimist
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Posted: February 07 2011 at 12:28 |
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Tough question. They both have additional layers (for Chicago the brass section, for Santana the percussion(ists)), they are both tight as hell, very creative, wide range of music, a few commercial tunes each... I grew up with Chicago though, it's gonna have to be them.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: February 08 2011 at 06:58 |
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Wrong comparison: Chicago v (Carlos Santana's brother Jorge's band) Malo would make more sense. |
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Posted: February 08 2011 at 08:19 |
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Posted: February 08 2011 at 21:11 |
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