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    Posted: November 24 2012 at 18:24
Not the most discussed genres here in my opinion. 

And instead of making multiple threads..

Top 5 Artists?
Top 10 Albums?
Top 20 Songs?

I'll post mine later Cool


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 18:59
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Top 5 Artists?

1.Charts and Maps
2.Godspeed You! Black Emperor
3.Earth (I'd say some of their later stuff is Post-rocky)
4.Giraffes? Giraffes!
5.Mono

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Top 10 Albums?

1."Dead Horse" - Charts and Maps
2."Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven" - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
3."More Skin With Milk Mouth" - Giraffes? Giraffes!
4."Hibernaculum" - Earth
5."'Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!" - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
6."Walking Cloud and Deep Red Sky, Flag Fluttered and the Sun Shined" - Mono (tie)
6."Enemies of C.Frais" - Charts and Maps (tie)
8."Skullgrid" - Behold... the Arctopus
9."The Earth is Not a Cold, Dead, Place" - Explosions in the Sky
10."He Has Left Us Alone but Shafts of Light Sometimes Grace the Corner of Our Rooms..." - At Silver Mt.Zion (tie)
10."F♯A♯∞" - Godspeed You! Black Emperor (tie)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 20:10
Only cuz I got lots of free time right now, why not (I'm just gonna include artists in 'Post Rock/Math Rock' without dividing them):

Top 5 Artists

Tortoise
Mogwai
Giraffes? Giraffes!
GYBE
Three Trapped Tigers

Top 10 Albums

Magyar Posse - Random Avenger
Tortoise - Standards
Giraffes? Giraffes! - More Skin With Milk Mouth
Pivot (PVT) - O Soundtrack My Heart
Vessels - Helioscope
GYBE - Lift Your Skinny Fists...
Mogwai - Hardcore Will Never Die...
Battles - Mirrored
Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Three Trapped Tigers - Route One Or Die

Top 20 Songs

1. Tortoise - Djed
2. GYBE - Sleep
3. Giraffes? Giraffes! - I Am S/H(im)e[r] As You Are Me And We Am I And I Are All Together: Our Collective Consciousness' Psychogenic Fugue
4. Magyar Posse - European Lover/Random Avenger
5. Mogwai - 2 Rights Make 1 Wrong
6. Do Make Say Think - Frederica
7. Battles - Tonto
8. Vessels - Monoform
9. Bark Psychosis - Big Shot
10. Tortoise - Seneca
11. Russian Circles - Enter
12. GYBE - The Dead Flag Blues
13. Pivot (PVT) - Sweet Memory
14. Leech - Inspiral
15. Auto!Automatic!! - That's Some Sick Mouth And Knee Coordination
16. Mogwai - Mogwai Fear Satan
17. Do Make Say Think - Do
18. Explosions In The Sky - Your Hand In Mine
19. Adebisi Shank - Genki Shank
20. The Samuel Jackson Five - A Perennial Candidate
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2012 at 21:22
Piglet were always a favorite of mine


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 01:49
Artist..
1. Don Caballero
2. Giraffes?Giraffes!
3. Battles
4. Russian Circles
5. Long Distance Calling

Albums..
1. What Burns Never Returns
2. Enter
3. Gloss Drop
4. More Skin With Milk Mouth
5. American Don
6. Stylus Fantasticus
7. F#A#Infinity
8. Unutella
9. Avoid the Light
10. Hawk is Howling

Songs will have to wait.. very difficult to do bands and albums - songs will take a bit Ouch


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 08:15

Favourite band, I would say A Northern Chorus.

Here are some personal favourites, some of the best songs I know. I like atmospheric songs and dreamy shoegazer elements.

Tristeza – Halo Heads    5:31 
Cul de Sac – Far Off, the Fabulous Iron Serpent Whistles    6:08 
Godspeed You! Black Emperor – Antennas to Heaven    18:57    
Godspeed You! Black Emperor – Moya    10:49  
Sigur Ros - Svefn-g-englar
Sigur Ros - Untitled #4 (a.k.a. "Njósnavélin")
Red Sparowes – Our Happiest Days Slowly Began to Turn Into Dust     5:39 
Red Sparowes – Buildings Began To Stretch Wide Across The Sky and The Air Filled With a Reddish Glow  7:21
Talk Talk – I Believe in You
Elbow – Newborn    7:37  
Jeniferever – Atlantis Arise!     7:20 
Jeniferever  - For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky
Jeniferever  - White Belt, Black Heart
A Northern Chorus – Until These Seams Are Sewn Again   
A Northern Chorus – And Still She Sleeps 
A Northern Chorus – Costa del Sol
A Northern Chorus – These Days 
A Northern Chorus – Moment Fit to Remind     6:41
July Skies – Autumn Fires    2:02 
July Skies – Air To Ground At Manorbier     3:57 
July Skies – Ruined and Disused Churches of Norfolk
Piano Magic - Wake Up 5:50
Piano Magic - Comets
Trans Am – MOTR    3:41

Some bands are hard to establish as postrock, because related to different genres, but post-rock is itself  based on styles like instrumental indie rock, dreamy shoegazer, dreampop, ambient, darkwave, post-punk, post-hardcore, progressive rock. So it's a confused genre. Shoegaze-bands of the 90's, for example Slowdive, wasn't called post-rock, but it's been an influence to later post-rock bands with dreamy shoegazer elements. I left out This Empty Flow , awesome band, which could be related to postrock but maybe more initially related to darkwave/coldwave. But I could have included songs by them. I added a couple of Piano Magic songs, which is also hard to establish genre-wise. But in their album from 1999 I hear stuff that reminds me of GY!BE , so I guess it's been an influence to GYBE.  I think no good postrock band should be "typical" post rock, because that's the sort of band of the 2000's that have popularized some characteristics mainly from GYBE, using sounds like tremolo on the guitar, feedback and other effects, using long song names, and using crescendos. Most of those later post-rock bands have made it simplified and accessible, often basing a song on one theme of chords that goes round and round. To me it's mostly insufficient and silly. It can often sound like an unfinished song that lacks vocals, or just feels "lacking".



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 20:16
Umm.... I think SEEFEEL for me. The track SPANGLE would be my all time favourite post rock/Math rock song. No strong powerful chords or hard riffing with the guitar in that track. It's a beauty. SEEFEEL is not a prog band though, they are more electronic than anything else, but they did help shape the genre into what it is today. ;)
Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2012 at 22:11
For anyone who hasn't heard the album - Stylus Fantasticus is a complete masterpiece of both genres. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2012 at 20:37
I don't listen to alot of Post/Math, but lately I've been listening to "Mirrored" by Battles almost non-stop. I've also heard some really cool stuff from Don Caballero, so maybe I'll be able to make a list in a few months.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2012 at 17:11

TOP 5 Post Rock/Math Rock Artists

Bark Psychosis

Cicada

Sigur Rós

Collapse Under the Empire

Maserati

 

 

TOP 10 Post Rock/Math Rock Albums:

1. Shadows of the Sun - ULVER

2. Code Name: Dust Sucker - BARK PSYCHOSIS

3. …and so we destroyed everything… - SLEEPMAKESWAVES

4. The Sirens Sound - COLLAPSE UNDER THE EMPIRE

5. All Is Violent, All Is Bright - GOD IS AN ASTRONAUT

6. Ágaetus Byrjun - SIGUR RóS

7. Gifts from Enola - GIFTS FROM ENOLA

8. Reverie - DATURAH

9. Sunrise - MY EDUCATION

10. In a Cold Embrace - BATTLESTATIONS

 

Honorable Mentions:

Pieces - CICADA

Sagarmatha - THE APPLESEED CAST

Over the Sea/Under the Water – CICADA

You Are There - MONO

The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place - EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY

Chasing After Shadows . . . Living with the Ghosts - HAMMOCK

( ) - SIGUR RÓS

Tertia - CASPIAN

Passages - MASERATI

Every Red Heart Shines towards the Red Sun - RED SPAROWES

Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven - GODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR

For Long Tomorrow - TOE.

 

TOP 20 Post Rock/Math Rock Songs:

 

1. “What Happened?” Ulver

2. “You Can’t Keep a Bad Man Down” Oceansize

 3. “The Siren Sound” Collapse Under the Empire

4. “EOS” Ulver

5. “Ny Batteri” Sigur Rós

6. “Slowsnow” Matryoshka

7. “Monoliths” Maserati

8. “Lazarus” Bark Psychosis

9. “a gaze blank and pitiless as the sun” sleepmakeswaves

10. “Lust” My Education

11. “Three Jumps the Devil” Autumn Chorus

12. “The Road West” The Appleseed Cart

13. “Let the Children Go” Ulver

14. “Finally…We’re Still Together” Cicada

15. “Alagoas” Gifts from Enola

16. “The Last Man” Clint Mansell

17. “Hybrisma” Daturah

18. “Svefn-G-Englar” Sigur Rós

19. “Sunrise” My Education

20. “Chinook Winds” Sunwrae

“Pure As Snow (Trails of the Winter Storm)” Mono

“Autumn Never Fall” Sunwrae

“Suicide by Star” God Is an Astronaut

“Ghosts of the Garden City” Caspian

“(03)” Sigur Rós

“Lake’s End” Cicada

“The Great Leap Poured Down Upon Us One Day Like a Mighty Storm Suddenly and Furiously Blinding our Senses” Red Sparowes

“As I Breathe” Robin Guthrie

“What Fell Down from the Moon Last Night” Joy Wants Eternity

“Sultans of El Sur” The Mercury Program

“Auxilio Maté” Tristeza

“Dust in the Devil’s Snow” Hammock

“Drove through Ghosts to Get Here” 65dasofstatic

“Distress” Perplexa

“The Antedelluvian Fire” Junius

“Rebuilding the Temple of Artemis” If Trees Could Talk

“Dust” Hidden Orchestra

“Inqub8tr” Bark Psychosis

“The Peter Criss Jazz” Don Caballero

“Carpe” Russian Circles




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2012 at 18:39
Yes! That's what I'm talking about Austin. Big smile I was actually going start the exact same thread about a week ago as well; Great minds think alike. Wink Possibly my favourite genre of music of all time - a lot of favourite bands in there as well. I've been into this style of music for about year now and it's really gotten a hold of what I listen to most of the time - it just resonates with as a person. I'm still scraping the barrel in terms of discovering new bands, but these are some of my favourites:

Favourite Bands:

1. Sigur Rós

2. Godpseed You! Black Emperor

3. Don Caballero

4. Battles

5. Tortoise

Favourite Albums:

1. Agaetis Byrjun - Sigur Rós
2. Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Attanae To Heaven - God's Pee
3. American Don - Don Caballero
4. Laughing Stock - Talk Talk
5. TNT - Tortoise
6. Mirrored - Battles
7. Spiderland - Slint
8. Hold Your Horse Is - Hella
9. The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place - Explosions In The Sky
10. Animals - This Town Needs Guns

Favourite Songs (Not necessarily in order):

Von - Sigur Rós
Storm - GY!BE
The Peter Criss Jazz - Don Cab
The Birth And Death of A Day - Explosions In the Sky
Djed - Tortoise
Tonto - Battles
Mogwai Fear Satan - Mogwai
Headless - Hella
European Lover/Random Avenger - Magyar Posse
Lets Rent Bikes From 1942 - Youth Pictures Of Florence Henderson
Monoform - Vessels
The Everlasting Light - Mono
Mladek - Russian Circles
Little Smoke - This Will Destroy You
Melody 8 - Tera Melos
Blown-Out Joy From Heaven's Mercied Hole - A Silver Mt. Zion
Everyplace Is A House - Maps And Atlases
Fredericia - Do Make Say Think
Honestly? - American Football
Drove Through Ghosts To Get Here
- 65DaysOfStatic
Good Morning, Captain - Slint


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2012 at 07:11
I cannot vote yet.
Yesterday I listened to the first post rock album in my life Wink (Agaetis Byrjun by Sigur Ros).
I'm probably going to listen more to it, because I like it Thumbs Up
But I'm an absolute beginner in post rock / math rock
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2012 at 11:42
^Be aware that album is not what a lot of post-rock sounds like, although some of it sounds similar.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2012 at 17:25
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

I cannot vote yet.
Yesterday I listened to the first post rock album in my life Wink (Agaetis Byrjun by Sigur Ros).
I'm probably going to listen more to it, because I like it Thumbs Up
But I'm an absolute beginner in post rock / math rock

Welcome! Tongue

Ef is another great band that could ease you into traditional post-rock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2012 at 18:10
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

I cannot vote yet.
Yesterday I listened to the first post rock album in my life Wink (Agaetis Byrjun by Sigur Ros).
I'm probably going to listen more to it, because I like it Thumbs Up
But I'm an absolute beginner in post rock / math rock


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2012 at 09:26
Thank you, all, for your comments. Smile

I'm not surprised that Sigur Ros is not trad post-rock. A friend of mine is into post-rock and he let me listen to a few songs from Stereolab, one of the bands he likes best, and that sounds quite different. 

So Ef is more traditional post-rock? Sounds interesting, got to check that out.

Interesting that the lists mentioned here are quite different from each other. No "Close To The Edges" here, even what is supposed to be the most popular post-rock album on the site, Codename:Dustsucker, only gets one mention. That's typical for post-rock, I suppose, no 'masterpieces'?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2012 at 09:41
GY!BE is a band that people typically mention as having the PR masterpieces for me it's their F#A#Infinity, others it is List Your Skinny Fists...

The problem with the Top 20 PR/MR Albums, is that they all have low amounts of ratings besides bands like Sigur Ros and GY!BE. This means that a lot of times the lists will change and have artists there that people prolly haven't heard. 

Example being Lite: An incredibly good Math-Rock band, but they have only 8 ratings to drop them on the list at #9
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2012 at 10:00
I'm surprised to see that "lift yr. skinny fists like antennas to heaven" is not first, or at least second after Ágætis Byrjun.  Of course, other than Enter (which I've not heard, though I do have Empros) and these two, the highest rated ones don't have all that many ratings, so...  Anyway, I'd say that AB and Skinny fists are indeed the post rock masterpieces.  (Skinny Fists is perhaps more TFTO than CTTE, though!)

Anyway, I'd like to recommend the following two as my favorite lesser known post-rock albums.

   Tangled Thoughts of Leaving Deaden the Fields                     Sioum I Am Mortal, But Was Fiend

Tangled Thoughts of Leaving Deaden the FieldsSioum I Am Mortal, But Was Fiend

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2012 at 12:25
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Interesting that the lists mentioned here are quite different from each other. No "Close To The Edges" here, even what is supposed to be the most popular post-rock album on the site, Codename:Dustsucker, only gets one mention. That's typical for post-rock, I suppose, no 'masterpieces'?


Codename: Dustsucker is only the highest rated album in that sub. It's not even considered as important as the bands first album from ten years earlier, Hex which was the first album to be labelled "post-rock". And it's a damn shame Tortoise don't even have one album in the Top 20. The stuff that gets labelled 'post rock' is very diverse and everyone will have their own ideas of which albums are masterpieces or not. I would suggest listening to the songs in the top20 lists on Youtube (specifically the ones that appear on more than one list).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 01 2012 at 12:40
Originally posted by zravkapt zravkapt wrote:

Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:



Interesting that the lists mentioned here are quite different from each other. No "Close To The Edges" here, even what is supposed to be the most popular post-rock album on the site, Codename:Dustsucker, only gets one mention. That's typical for post-rock, I suppose, no 'masterpieces'?


Codename: Dustsucker is only the highest rated album in that sub. It's not even considered as important as the bands first album from ten years earlier, Hex which was the first album to be labelled "post-rock". And it's a damn shame Tortoise don't even have one album in the Top 20. The stuff that gets labelled 'post rock' is very diverse and everyone will have their own ideas of which albums are masterpieces or not. I would suggest listening to the songs in the top20 lists on Youtube (specifically the ones that appear on more than one list).

Thanks for the tip: I wouldn't have thought of a Youtube top 20. That sounds interesting to get a good idea what's there to be found in the genre.
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