X-TG - Prog Electronic or Throbbing Gristle discog

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X-TG were Throbbing Gristle sans Genesis P-Orridge (ie  Chris Carter and Cosey Fanni Tutti with the late Peter Christopherson).

They released a two-album set called Desertshore/The Final Report. It could be viewed that the first album is a cover of Nico's Desertshore so does not qualify for evaluation and the second is a continuation of TG's "Annual Report" series, but this is new material (the music on X-TG's The Final Report is not the same as TGs. Third and Final Report) completed by Carter and Cosey after the death of Christopherson. Desertshore features guest vocals from Anthony (of Anthony and the Johnsons), Blixa Bargeld (of Einstürzende Neubauten), Sasha Grey (of aTelecine) and Marc Almond.

So... I guess the questions raised are: 

Do we treat X-TG as a different band and evaluate them accordingly (if they even qualify)?
Do we just add Desertshore/The Final Report to the TG discography?
Do we just regard it as an interesting curiocity and forget about it?

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Dean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575	Topic: X-TG - Prog Electronic or Throbbing Gristle discog Posted: January 13 2013 at 08:26
	X-TG were Throbbing Gristle sans Genesis P-Orridge (ie Chris Carter and Cosey Fanni Tutti with the late Peter Christopherson). They released a two-album set called Desertshore/The Final Report. It could be viewed that the first album is a cover of Nico's Desertshore so does not qualify for evaluation and the second is a continuation of TG's "Annual Report" series, but this is new material (the music on X-TG's The Final Report is not the same as TGs. Third and Final Report) completed by Carter and Cosey after the death of Christopherson. Desertshore features guest vocals from Anthony (of Anthony and the Johnsons), Blixa Bargeld (of Einstürzende Neubauten), Sasha Grey (of aTelecine) and Marc Almond. So... I guess the questions raised are: Do we treat X-TG as a different band and evaluate them accordingly (if they even qualify)? Do we just add Desertshore/The Final Report to the TG discography? Do we just regard it as an interesting curiocity and forget about it?
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Andy Webb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: June 04 2010 Location: Terria Status: Offline Points: 13298	Posted: January 13 2013 at 08:29
	These always get messy. I'd say add it to TG's discog due to the continuity between the Reports. Band name changed happen all the time, and there just needs to be a differentiating note in the album title.


Guldbamsen Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23098	Posted: January 13 2013 at 08:56
	Funny you should mention that Dean. I reviewed Heathen a little while back and noticed the omission of Desertshore/Final Report(well Heathen was missing too...). Must've forgotten about it though, because I vividly remember wondering where exactly to put it. I agree with Andy though, and as a longtime fan I also happen to think it would be sad to separate the 'Report' series from each other.
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Sheavy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 28 2010 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 2854	Posted: January 20 2013 at 00:09
	X-TG have also released an album called Faet Narok. X-TG is really considered a seperate entity from Throbbing Gristle.

seventhsojourn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 11 2009 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4006	Posted: January 28 2013 at 13:54
	The remaining members have made it clear that this is not a TG album: http://www.factmag.com/2012/09/26/genesis-p-orridge-denounces-new-throbbing-gristle-album-on-twitter-chris-carter-hits-back/ I appreciate what Andy and David are saying about not separating the Reports, but as Sheavy says X-TG have also released 'Faet Narok': Elements of this album are derived from recordings made by Sleazy in 2010 and audio explorations we pursued during the recording of the Desertshore 'mother album'... (throbbing-gristle.com) That official TG site contains a link to a separate X-TG site: http://x-tg.com/ X-TG was conceived by Chris Carter, Peter 'Sleazy' Christopherson and Cosey Fanni Tutti as a vehicle to fulfil Throbbing Gristle committments. And another thing, what do we do with future X-TG releases... do they all go under TG? Apart from the 'Desertshore-The Final Report' two album project there are a number of other unreleased studio and live recordings that Chris Carter and Cosey Fanni Tutti intend to release during 2013-14. Thoughts?

Sheavy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 28 2010 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 2854	Posted: January 28 2013 at 14:13
	I personnally think X-TG should gets it's own page.

seventhsojourn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 11 2009 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 4006	Posted: February 03 2013 at 06:37
	Okay, opinion seems split on this. Andy and David feel this should be added to the TG discography here, while I tend to agree with Sheavy that they are a separate entity that we could ask the PE Team to look at. Dean?

Dean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575	Posted: February 03 2013 at 06:46
	The PE team added TG, it should be their call, I think there are good arguments for all three options I presented. Since we have an impasse I don't think there is a right or wrong answer - whatever they decide is fine by me.
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Sheavy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 28 2010 Location: Alabama Status: Offline Points: 2854	Posted: October 25 2013 at 17:34
	And they have been added as a separate project. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=8515

Dean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575	Posted: October 26 2013 at 05:12

	What?