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Poll Question: Who do you like better all around, group work and solo?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 04:24
old grumpy Rick !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 04:34
I like them both, but I choose Tony. He's such a good composer, and though no virtuoso, the notes he uses are often quite effective. I like most of his solo albums too.

Not too crazy about quite some compositions I heard from Rick. I suppose he's a better player than composer, but Journey and Criminal Record have some outstanding compositions. He's a wonderful player overall.

But I choose Tony.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 05:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 07:00
Overall, Banks has the win. But you can't beat Wakeman's "flair"!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 07:33
Banks for me, he has more subtle musicality, his choices for shifting keys and scales are wonderful. All my respect to grumpy Rick in any case!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 07:34
This is very close for me, since I enjoy both of them a lot. Quite different styles, but excellent overall, so it's quite hard to make a choice. No vote. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 07:43
Wakeman is a far better and talented keyboard player. I choose Sir Rick.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 07:50
Banks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 10:03
Rick Wakeman, of course.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 11:42
Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

I've never been too keen on Wakeman. Patrick Moraz is my favorite Yes keyboardist. Only took one album for him to effectively displace Wakeman in my book.
^ this

This is a fascinating question because in many ways, they're opposites:

1)  Banks is more of a meat-and-potatos player who supports the song
      Wakeman is better from a technical standpoint and more flash
2)  Banks seemed to favor organ and polysynth
      Wakeman favored piano
3)  Banks' solo's were usually played on an ARP Pro Soloist
      Wakeman favored the Mini-Moog
4)  Wakeman is a hilarious guy you'd want to hang out with
      Banks is an upper class twit, but I voted for him anyway Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 12:02
Six Wives of Rick
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 13:08
Personally, I can't stand most of Wakeman's solo albums; they are often quite cheesy and he can't select a good vocalist to save his life(IMO)!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 13:43
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:


Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

I've never been too keen on Wakeman. Patrick Moraz is my favorite Yes keyboardist. Only took one album for him to effectively displace Wakeman in my book.


^ this
<span style="line-height: 1.2;"></span>
<span style="line-height: 1.2;">This is a fascinating question because in many ways, they're opposites:</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.2;"></span>
<span style="line-height: 1.2;">1)  Banks is more of a meat-and-potatos player who supports the song</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.2;">      Wakeman is better from a technical standpoint and more flash</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.2;">2)  Banks seemed to favor organ and polysynth</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.2;">      Wakeman favored piano</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.2;">3)  Banks' solo's were usually played on an ARP Pro Soloist</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.2;">      Wakeman favored the Mini-Moog</span>
<span style="line-height: 1.2;">4)  </span><span style="line-height: 1.2;">Wakeman is a hilarious guy you'd want to hang out with</span>
      <span style="line-height: 1.2;">Banks is an upper class twit, but I voted for him anyway Wink</span>


Raving and drooling I leaned on his neck with a screeeeeeeamm! ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 13:58
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 14:13
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Depends from what perspective you are looking
Technical - very close run thing ,didn't Keith Emerson say Banks was the best?
Composition - Six Wives is amazing but is to Rick what The Planets Suite is to Holst. I do like Criminal Record and other Wakemen albums but none of them are masterpeices like Six Wives. Banks has never recorded a bravura work such as that
Working within a band - Banks easily. well he was 'Mr Genesis'. Wakeman joined an established band and was the cherry on top of the icing on top of the cake. Suddenly Yes could challenge ELP on their own ground.
Live performance - Banks nails it every time but rarely varies from pre-rehearsed solos. Could phone in his performance most of the time. Wakeman is prepared to improvise much like Emerson.
I make it a 2-2- drawSmile


I do like Wakeman's ability to improvise, or make some twists to the songs he is playing, adding something and so on, just like the extra keyboard solo he added to "Starship Trooper" on Keys to Ascension... he just made the Wurm section his own as much as it's Howe's; and of course, he would do this kind of things with his own songs on his own shows. Another nice thing about him, is that he usually plays his songs with the musicians he has available, without using recordings to fill out the sound, which might have been a temptation with songs from albums such as Journey and Arthur that use lots of orchestrations and choirs, and really, those songs sound usually sound perfect anyway.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 15:10
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 15:40
If it counts for anything, I prefer Rick's 'Silent Nights' over Banks' 'A Curious Feeling'.............Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 16:16
Rick is funnier
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 16:27
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Live performance - Banks nails it every time but rarely varies from pre-rehearsed solos. Could phone in his performance most of the time. Wakeman is prepared to improvise much like Emerson.


Good point.  Banks is my favourite lead synthesizer player.  Emo & Wakeman could improvise circles around him but Banks' solos are well thought out mini-compositions.  The best example I've found is the synth solo from "In The Cage".  I learned to play it along with the backing organ chords a few months ago and it's a master class in how to build a solo melody on top of a harmonic background.  Genius.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2013 at 18:56
Rick Wakeman was a favorite of mine for some time but I really keep discovering how much I've overrated him... He is a great player and sometimes even a good composer (I love the "Arthur" album) and of course his playing on my all-time favorite album Tales from Topographic Oceans is beyond stunning. Still I can't help how easy he was replaced by Patrick Moraz for me, he really wasn't that essential for the Yes sound as it seemed while he was in the band. 

Tony Banks is more of a composer and less of a player, which I guess I like more because I think of myself that way. And this is one hell of a composer, the crimson king mentioned the In the Cage solo, I'd like to add one of my all-time favorite songs "The Lamia" to the list of masterful Banks compositions, of course among many others (Watcher of the Skies intro anyone?). So yeah, Banks really is more interesting as a whole when compared to Wakeman, he seems to connect with his own music on a deeper level than Wakeman does, at least in a way more similar with how I connect with my music. So in the end I'd vote for Banks I guess.
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