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Posted: May 16 2015 at 18:13
few years ago I would not have believed what just happened: gave my vote vote to Latimer, not Gilmour. but lately I've been listening Camel so much and I'm fascinated by Latimer's playing. So beautiful, so emotional.
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Posted: May 16 2015 at 06:32
39 votes each and I can't decide between them yet, I've just discovered the Camel song Lawrence and it's made the decision to choose one over the other impossible.
Gilmour has the crafted atmosphere but Latimer the raw emotion.
THAT TRIPLE SOLO AT THE END! I can't for the life of me think of a better prog song than this, maybe PF's Echoes or Shadow of the Heirophant at a push.
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Posted: May 10 2015 at 22:37
uduwudu wrote:
DG has a fine voice. Not something that can be said about many prog lead guitarists (Steve Hs). AL sounds ok but a little through the nose and bland at times. Both on par as writers, imaginations plenty. As axe meisters, first class, can listen to these guys play forever and not get tired, they know pacing and phrasing, how to out solos into musical sentences, bless they'd never work in certain metal bands... I think DG may be a little more signature sound oriented i.e. distinctive but AL has his lyricism and big ideas as well.
Choose?
Er...
Actually, even though I consider Gilmour to be easily a better singer than Latimer, I think Latimer (and bandmates) sound perfect on their songs, and I wouldn't really have any other "better" singer on Mirage or Moonmadness.
DG has a fine voice. Not something that can be said about many prog lead guitarists (Steve Hs). AL sounds ok but a little through the nose and bland at times. Both on par as writers, imaginations plenty. As axe meisters, first class, can listen to these guys play forever and not get tired, they know pacing and phrasing, how to out solos into musical sentences, bless they'd never work in certain metal bands... I think DG may be a little more signature sound oriented i.e. distinctive but AL has his lyricism and big ideas as well.
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Posted: May 09 2015 at 23:04
charles_ryder wrote:
Andy is my favorite guitarist. Moreover he is some more than just guitarist, unlike David.
Gilmour is also more than just a guitarist. He is a superb songwriter and singer. Much better singer than Latimer, that's for sure... and in general I like Floyd's songs better than Camel's (and indeed there are some superb Camel songs... it's just that Floyd is my very favourite band), and many of those were written by Gilmour, and many otheres were co-written with him.
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Posted: August 12 2013 at 13:55
Horizons wrote:
Not mainstream enough :]
I'm sure they'd have loved to have been more mainstream, got their songs played on the radio and more Americans listening to them. I think Camel had bad timing and arrived a bit too late. Moonmadness came out in 1976. But Camel kept trying to break into the mainstream, even going pop/New Wave by the late 70s and early 80s.
Despite Floyd's success, I think they were much more original. But I really like 70s Camel as well...
BUT:::::::: I realized I misunderstood Horizon's post, haha, sorry. That's another interesting thing you raise. I have the feeling that Gilmour probably *did* listen to more mainstream music. I'm willing to bet that even though Floyd's my favorite band, I probably wouldn't like the music that influenced Gilmour and Waters that much. You know, all those 50s albums and early 60s rock and roll that he grew up with, but which sound horribly dated to my ears...
Come on, Gilmour created (or should i say, sculpted) some of the most iconic guitar solos of the progressive era. Dogs. Shine On. Comfortably Numb. Another Brick in the Wall (parts 1 and 2). I love classic-era Camel, but there's nothing on Gilmour's level. Camel and Latimer were *clearly* listening to a *lot* of Floyd. But I'm not sure Gilmour or Waters ever listened to Camel...
Yeah, I'd love to know what Gilmour thinks about Camel.
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Posted: August 12 2013 at 12:26
jude111 wrote:
Come on, Gilmour created (or should i say, sculpted) some of the most iconic guitar solos of the progressive era. Dogs. Shine On. Comfortably Numb. Another Brick in the Wall (parts 1 and 2). I love classic-era Camel, but there's nothing on Gilmour's level. Camel and Latimer were *clearly* listening to a *lot* of Floyd. But I'm not sure Gilmour or Waters ever listened to Camel...
Yeah, I'd love to know what Gilmour thinks about Camel.
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Posted: August 12 2013 at 11:55
Gilmour created (or should i say, sculpted) some of the most iconic guitar solos of the progressive era. Dogs. Shine On. Comfortably Numb. Another Brick in the Wall (parts 1 and 2). I love classic-era Camel, but there's nothing on Gilmour's level. Camel and Latimer were *clearly* listening to a *lot* of Floyd. But I'm not sure Gilmour or Waters ever listened to Camel...
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Posted: August 09 2013 at 22:01
uduwudu wrote:
Do we wonder which of them is the best /worst vocalist? Mild observation is that thinking of DG in the Saucer / Ummagumma days compared to his later years . there's quite a change between his more avant garde leanings and the bluesy statements thereafter. I would probably regard Latimer as the better composer - just for Snow Goose alone plus the exceptional live version on that 1978 album. Interestingly DG has an exceptional 1978 album as well.Don't have a favourite.
Do you care about doing that poll? I bet that one Gilmour would win by a very wide margin... and indeed I like him better on vocals. However, some of the charm of those early Camel albums that I have come to love is the not so excellent singing... it's got it's charm, and I wouldn't have it any other way, I just love it (of course, not all the songs were sung by Latimer, as far as I understand).
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