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Poll Question: Which of these do you prefer?
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11 [15.49%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2014 at 22:20
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Zappa, then Davis, then Kansas, then DT

That's it in a nutshell!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2014 at 22:57
Miles!!
I am currently digging:

Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz!

Please drop me a message with album suggestions.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2014 at 23:13
Miles way above the other three.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2014 at 23:25
Originally posted by Sagichim Sagichim wrote:

Zappa
Davis
Kansas






Dream Theater







That works for me........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2014 at 07:03
Kansas has my fave albums out of these 4

Zappa and DT both have great albums as well

Davis just doesn't do it for me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2014 at 08:35
Hi,
 
There should not be a "favorite" here.
 
Your comparison suffers because two of these are folks that will be listed in music history and the other two are not exactly folks that burned up the history of the music much.
 
Sad to see these brought down to the song/topten mentality. I always hoped that us in this board would be better than that, and understand what "progressive" really meant within the context of music history, rather than top ten mentality.
 
This is one of the saddest polls I have ever seen! (And I like DT - see the book review) and think that Kansas is way over rated and just radio music!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2014 at 08:54
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
There should not be a "favorite" here.
 
Your comparison suffers because two of these are folks that will be listed in music history and the other two are not exactly folks that burned up the history of the music much.
 
Sad to see these brought down to the song/topten mentality. I always hoped that us in this board would be better than that, and understand what "progressive" really meant within the context of music history, rather than top ten mentality.
 
This is one of the saddest polls I have ever seen! (And I like DT - see the book review) and think that Kansas is way over rated and just radio music!


If you re-read my first post you'll see that these four are the ones which gained the most votes in my previous poll (April 2013) which listed 25 different US acts.  The choice was made by the voters, not by me.  And the reason I chose four rather than two or five or whatever is that these four collective had about fifty percent of the votes in the old poll.

As for the context of musical history, I doubt if Miles Davis gave a flying one about prog or his inclusion among such bands as we all love here. (his first thirty  albums were all released more than fifty years ago - before the likes of Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd etc had even formed.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2014 at 15:40
Kansas is so cute... Embarrassed
In my opinion: Kansas>Dream Theater>Miles Davis>Frank Zappa.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2014 at 11:58
Zappa, Kansas, Davis, DT.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2014 at 12:45
I really have no clue! I own one album by each of these. Dream Theater's Metropolis Pt. 2 is my favourite out of these, but I don't like their whole repetoire, Kind Of Blue was so influential to progressive music (the album I own) but I still don't really like him or jazz on the whole, Kansas made some very good songs but they sound a bit stifled and get boring after a while, so I suppose it has to be Frank Zappa. Hot Rats is a great blend of so many different genres, and I've been meaning to buy One Size Fits All. Zappa is a genius and has over time produced such a vast range of styles in his albums so its has to be really Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2014 at 17:23
Originally posted by Xonty Xonty wrote:

I really have no clue! I own one album by each of these. Dream Theater's Metropolis Pt. 2 is my favourite out of these, but I don't like their whole repetoire, Kind Of Blue was so influential to progressive music (the album I own) but I still don't really like him or jazz on the whole, Kansas made some very good songs but they sound a bit stifled and get boring after a while, so I suppose it has to be Frank Zappa. Hot Rats is a great blend of so many different genres, and I've been meaning to buy One Size Fits All. Zappa is a genius and has over time produced such a vast range of styles in his albums so its has to be really Smile


You might enjoy Miles' 70s albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2014 at 17:49
Miles was king. Then Zappa. The other two don't really come on the radar for me when compared.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2014 at 22:18
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by bloodnarfer bloodnarfer wrote:

I'm kind of under the impression that before my time these forums used to be packed with Dream Theater fans and then recently they all myseriously died.

amirite?

Yeah, pretty much.  They certainly were more popular here several years ago, or at least you'd see more discussion of them.  I almost never see them brought up anymore.
 
Very true...I suspect most jumped onto the DT specific forums, the last two albums are just blahh....There is nothing really new or exciting about them anymore.
 
Maybe Portnoy was right, take a break. Sorry to hijack this thread, but just the other night I was watching TMS and one of the guests was David Draiman, when asked by Trunk he articulated very well why Disturbed went on hiatus in 2012, I don't follow Disturbed music but his explanation was damn good, he comes across as a very good speaker.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2014 at 00:01
ZAPPA!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2014 at 03:17
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by bloodnarfer bloodnarfer wrote:

I'm kind of under the impression that before my time these forums used to be packed with Dream Theater fans and then recently they all myseriously died.

amirite?

Yeah, pretty much.  They certainly were more popular here several years ago, or at least you'd see more discussion of them.  I almost never see them brought up anymore.
 
Very true...I suspect most jumped onto the DT specific forums, the last two albums are just blahh....There is nothing really new or exciting about them anymore.
 
Maybe Portnoy was right, take a break. Sorry to hijack this thread, but just the other night I was watching TMS and one of the guests was David Draiman, when asked by Trunk he articulated very well why Disturbed went on hiatus in 2012, I don't follow Disturbed music but his explanation was damn good, he comes across as a very good speaker.
 
Back to your regularly scheduled programming!

 
Totally agree with you regarding DT.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2014 at 06:43
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Sorry to hijack this thread,
Be my guest.
 
Everyone can consider this a place for discussion on any of the four, or comparisons between any of them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2014 at 15:22
Allrighty then..........
Zappa and Davis are simply way cool ............Kansas and DT aren't in the same league imo....but I would rather listen to Kansas any day of the week since DT simply give me a headache after one or two 'songs'.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2014 at 17:05
Kansas and Dream Theater are jokes.

Zappa is way-overrated.

Miles Davis was amazing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2014 at 14:04
Originally posted by Genital Giant Genital Giant wrote:

Kansas and Dream Theater are jokes.

Zappa is way-overrated.

Miles Davis was amazing.
 
Why is Kansas a joke?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2014 at 16:57
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Miles was king. Then Zappa. The other two don't really come on the radar for me when compared.
 
And both Miles and Frank are massive in the history of the art form. The other 2 are nowhere near. But again, this has become a fan poll based on favoritism, by folks that never even heard Miles or Frank, but they voted for their favorite band.
 
But it is sad to see both Frank and Miles dis-respected given their amount of work and respect that they deserve, and will not get pn a board where many of its folks do not have the musical open-ness to even realize what it took to create monster musicians like them!


Edited by moshkito - January 18 2014 at 17:03
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