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    Posted: July 23 2014 at 22:53
Heathaze.
When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 09:26
I like all of the songs on Abacab Cool
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^ Thanks, now I have to compare & contrast.......(........but I love doing this.....)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 02:42
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I've just ordered Abacab ( you can get it very cheap!) so as just to get Keep It Dark (already have Dodo/Lurker and the title track as downloads)
Andy , what is the fourth track you like on Abacab?


Abacab
Me & Sarah Jane
Keep it Dark
Dodo/Lurker ( I count this as one track - rightly or wrongly)

I can tolerate Man on the Corner too, but No Reply, Another Record, Whodunnit.
That's seems to be about right.
No Reply.... does again have some cool bass from Mike, but not the best track from them.


It's quite a 'neat' funky tune, I guess but if I want funk I'd probably go to a funk band. It's not really what you by an album by a prog rock band for. Imo..

Banks compared his keyboard work on that song to the piano on The Lamb Lieds Down on Broadway. If you listen carefully there is something in that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 02:04
Abacab is quite good for the most part for me, everything up until Dodo/Lurker. The rest I can take or leave.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 01:54
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I've just ordered Abacab ( you can get it very cheap!) so as just to get Keep It Dark (already have Dodo/Lurker and the title track as downloads)
Andy , what is the fourth track you like on Abacab?


Abacab
Me & Sarah Jane
Keep it Dark
Dodo/Lurker ( I count this as one track - rightly or wrongly)

I can tolerate Man on the Corner too, but No Reply, Another Record, Whodunnit.
That's seems to be about right.
No Reply.... does again have some cool bass from Mike, but not the best track from them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 01:35
Originally posted by genbanks genbanks wrote:

Originally posted by tdfloyd tdfloyd wrote:

1- Heathaze
2-Evidence of Autumn
3-Guild Vocal
4-Cul-de-Sac


Exactly this
I'll 3rd that. Glad Evidence of Autumn's getting some love.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 01:27
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I've just ordered Abacab ( you can get it very cheap!) so as just to get Keep It Dark (already have Dodo/Lurker and the title track as downloads)
Andy , what is the fourth track you like on Abacab?


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Me & Sarah Jane
Keep it Dark
Dodo/Lurker ( I count this as one track - rightly or wrongly)

I can tolerate Man on the Corner too, but No Reply, Another Record, Whodunnit.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 01:22
I've just ordered Abacab ( you can get it very cheap!) so as just to get Keep It Dark (already have Dodo/Lurker and the title track as downloads)

Andy , what is the fourth track you like on Abacab?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2014 at 00:50
Originally posted by genbanks genbanks wrote:


Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Any fans of Mike R's ripping fretless bass lines of Heathaze ?? The song is superb without question.
Also, venturing off-topic here, but Keep It Dark is an equivalent track from the Abacab album.

Keep It Dark is a great track
not sure about Heathaze to be honest , never really grabbed me


Yeah, love Keep it Dark. One of only four tunes I like on Abacab.

And Keep it dark seems to becomes from a Banks concept, he wrote the lyrics and I remember some interview in which he talks about how he "teachs" the melody line to Collins, or something like this.
It does suffer from the usual 80's qualities sound-wise, but it really is an excellent song that's truly 'Banksian' through and through. Collins stretches his voice on the superb chorus.
Actually, thinking about it now, we should do an Abacab thread (or resurrect an existing one...) - so much discussion and opinions can work for this controversial album......

Edited by Tom Ozric - July 23 2014 at 00:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2014 at 17:17
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Any fans of Mike R's ripping fretless bass lines of Heathaze ?? The song is superb without question.
Also, venturing off-topic here, but Keep It Dark is an equivalent track from the Abacab album.

Keep It Dark is a great track
not sure about Heathaze to be honest , never really grabbed me


Yeah, love Keep it Dark. One of only four tunes I like on Abacab.

And Keep it dark seems to becomes from a Banks concept, he wrote the lyrics and I remember some interview in which he talks about how he "teachs" the melody line to Collins, or something like this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2014 at 02:48
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Any fans of Mike R's ripping fretless bass lines of Heathaze ?? The song is superb without question.
Also, venturing off-topic here, but Keep It Dark is an equivalent track from the Abacab album.

Keep It Dark is a great track
not sure about Heathaze to be honest , never really grabbed me


Yeah, love Keep it Dark. One of only four tunes I like on Abacab.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2014 at 01:30
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Any fans of Mike R's ripping fretless bass lines of Heathaze ?? The song is superb without question.
Also, venturing off-topic here, but Keep It Dark is an equivalent track from the Abacab album.

Keep It Dark is a great track

not sure about Heathaze to be honest , never really grabbed me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2014 at 01:25
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Indeed, Heathaze for sure. Duke is a very special album in my world......
Evidence Of Autumn appeared on the 'Three Sides Live' dbl LP, but not as strong as Heathaze.

Doesn't appear on my version. Was there a bonus edition?

There are two versions of Three Sides Live.
A UK version, where the 4th side also has live tracks.
I grew up with the non-UK version, with 5 studio tracks (The Paperlate EP  - Paperlate, You Might Recall, Me And Virgil - and Evidence Of Autumn and Open Door)

That explains the odd titleSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2014 at 10:02
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Indeed, Heathaze for sure. Duke is a very special album in my world......
Evidence Of Autumn appeared on the 'Three Sides Live' dbl LP, but not as strong as Heathaze.

Doesn't appear on my version. Was there a bonus edition?

There are two versions of Three Sides Live.
A UK version, where the 4th side also has live tracks.
I grew up with the non-UK version, with 5 studio tracks (The Paperlate EP  - Paperlate, You Might Recall, Me And Virgil - and Evidence Of Autumn and Open Door)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2014 at 06:47
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Any fans of Mike R's ripping fretless bass lines of Heathaze ?? The song is superb without question.
Also, venturing off-topic here, but Keep It Dark is an equivalent track from the Abacab album.


Indeed, his fretless work is good on Heathaze. The song has a lovey feel and musically a very powerful chorus too. Some of the lyrics I find a bit toe curling to be honest, but I never felt Genesis were great at writing lyrics after PG left.
Yes, yes - very powerful chorus. Deep and emotional.
And, referencing the statement a few posts above, 'Please Don't Ask' is beautiful, even if a bit 'outside' of the album's main ideals, 'Misunderstanding' could've been on Phil's solo debut, and Cul-de-Sac doesn't do much for me either.....
Oh, Alone Tonight is rather forgettable as well. Apart from that, a grand album for 1980.


I think Please don't ask should have been on a Collins solo album too. It kind of fits in with the Duke concept, but is so in tune with the sort of stuff PC was doing as a solo artist it almost didn't 'need' to be on a Genesis album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2014 at 05:19
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Any fans of Mike R's ripping fretless bass lines of Heathaze ?? The song is superb without question.
Also, venturing off-topic here, but Keep It Dark is an equivalent track from the Abacab album.


Indeed, his fretless work is good on Heathaze. The song has a lovey feel and musically a very powerful chorus too. Some of the lyrics I find a bit toe curling to be honest, but I never felt Genesis were great at writing lyrics after PG left.
Yes, yes - very powerful chorus. Deep and emotional.
And, referencing the statement a few posts above, 'Please Don't Ask' is beautiful, even if a bit 'outside' of the album's main ideals, 'Misunderstanding' could've been on Phil's solo debut, and Cul-de-Sac doesn't do much for me either.....
Oh, Alone Tonight is rather forgettable as well. Apart from that, a grand album for 1980.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2014 at 04:14
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Any fans of Mike R's ripping fretless bass lines of Heathaze ?? The song is superb without question.
Also, venturing off-topic here, but Keep It Dark is an equivalent track from the Abacab album.


Indeed, his fretless work is good on Heathaze. The song has a lovey feel and musically a very powerful chorus too. Some of the lyrics I find a bit toe curling to be honest, but I never felt Genesis were great at writing lyrics after PG left.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2014 at 04:12
Cul-de-sac for me.

Duke is a strange and prophetic album. Prophetic in the sense that you could see quite clearly the direction Genesis were preparing to take. It's stil very good overall though imo.

There are some tracks which are extremely weak and should have been left off the album: Please Don't Ask and Misunderstanding, and to a leser extent the rather insipid and formulaic Alone Tonight. The band were making the transition to middle of the road pop and had to throw these turds into the rose water pool to reinforce their mainstream position.

However..
Behind the Lines
Duchess
Guide vocal
Man of our times
Heathaze
Turn it on again
Cul-de-sac
Dukes Travels
Dukes End

All excellent tracks. 4.5 star album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2014 at 04:00
Any fans of Mike R's ripping fretless bass lines of Heathaze ?? The song is superb without question.
Also, venturing off-topic here, but Keep It Dark is an equivalent track from the Abacab album.
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