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Blacksword
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Topic: yes (90125) Posted: October 02 2017 at 03:49 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
As a pop rock record or mainstream aor record(ie Asia, Styx, Boston, Foreigner, Journey etc)it's fantastic. As a Yes record it's middle of the pack at best. As a prog record it's not even invited to the dinner party. | In Yes terms it's very progressive, because it's such a departure and progression from what they had done before. The contrast between Trevor Horns crisp, almost electronic pop production including the use of sampling, and the heavy rock guitar makes it both distinctly rock and prog. It's far more 'progressive' than Drama IMO, and vastly superior in quality to Tormato. Rick Wakemen once said he wished he'd been involved with it. It was also my introduction to Yes, so I guess it's quite special to me for that reason.
Edited by Blacksword - October 02 2017 at 03:49
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: October 01 2017 at 10:16 |
As a pop rock record or mainstream aor record(ie Asia, Styx, Boston, Foreigner, Journey etc)it's fantastic. As a Yes record it's middle of the pack at best. As a prog record it's not even invited to the dinner party.
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Posted: October 01 2017 at 04:03 |
I've always loved it, heard it for the first time in its entirety back in '95. Obviously heard Owner of a Lonely Heart before. Still having fun listening to it every once in a while. :)
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Posted: May 19 2017 at 14:26 |
I liked it at the time, but it hasn't held up for me. Too cloying and repetitive in the choruses. On the other hand, Genesis Shapes, from the same era -- Didn't much care for it back then, but nowadays I find it goes down much better than 90125 to my middle aged ears.
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Posted: May 19 2017 at 12:34 |
You gotta' be kidding me.
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Steve Wyzard
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Posted: May 19 2017 at 12:12 |
Not only my favorite Yes album, but my favorite rock album of all time. I bought it on a rainy Saturday morning, February 11, 1984, and it has never failed to captivate me since. And yes, it was also my gateway into Yes in general and all their other albums (I bought Yessongs at the same time). As far as the other Trevor Rabin albums, Big Generator was a vast disappointment, Union was the band's nadir, and Talk has both some very high highs and very low lows.
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grantman
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Posted: May 15 2017 at 09:41 |
i agree big generator and talk were very worthy yes albums, although really did not care for shoot high aim low, a very clunky track i feel .
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Lewian
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Posted: May 15 2017 at 09:36 |
I loved "Changes" and played it to death when it came out; I still think it's pretty good but I don't play it that often anymore. "Owner" is very clever and well done, same holds for "Leave it" in a quite different way, but the rest of the album never really clicked with me emotionally.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: May 14 2017 at 11:59 |
It was not meant to be a Yes album when most of the tracks were first demoed. The band was first known as Cinema before Jon Anderson was invited. Chris played Jon some of the tracks, Jon liked them and agreed to sing on much of them while adding some lyrics and maybe changing things a little bit. Apparently Jon said something like "well, if I sing on these songs it will sound like Yes." Chris Squire's response was something like "well, that's the idea." :)
I think it's a very good album but I actually prefer Big Generator because I feel they took more chances with it and some of the tracks are "deeper" and closer to vintage Yes. I seem to be in the minority of those who really like BG I guess maybe partly because I remember when it first came out and I was already a big Yes fan by then.
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AEProgman
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Posted: May 12 2017 at 13:11 |
Not my favorite by Yes, but I like the album and saw them on that tour in the 80s.
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Posted: May 12 2017 at 12:02 |
Count me as a fan of "Owner." Yeah, 90125 is much different, because it began life as a different album by a band that wasn't even going to be called Yes. I also like "It Can Happen" a lot. Cool song. Overall, the album is a good jam, though it stops for me after "Leave It."
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Posted: May 12 2017 at 11:11 |
Good for them for making a record that was more commercially successful than anything they did previously. Sure, we would have all liked a more classic Yes album but it's not like we don't have several of those to choose from.
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Rednight
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Posted: May 12 2017 at 09:37 |
Crisp production, but I like to think of it only as a bump in the road for the Yes boys. Naturally, I wish they had expended their talents working on something a little more proggier at the time.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: May 11 2017 at 20:20 |
Yes were actually pretty popular as a cult band and beyond even before 90125.
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omphaloskepsis
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Posted: May 11 2017 at 20:12 |
Great Album!
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jayem
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Posted: May 11 2017 at 05:55 |
Yes's nr 1 at least on par with Fragile and CTTE. Sahring my fondness for 90125 is actually how I registered on Progarchives ! Owner's magic groove... Hold On... Cinema then Leave It (the groove !).... Our Song (groove!) ... Hearts !! Dancing; playing air guitar to all those Rabin solos...
31 years after first listening I can't help loving 90125 the more
Trevor Rabin if you ever happen to read this: I hope you don't find it boring to play all your 90125 solos exactly like on the album
Thank you Yes for that Heaven on Earth !!
Edited by jayem - October 01 2017 at 04:28
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Blacksword
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Posted: May 11 2017 at 03:07 |
I think it's one of their best albums. Certainly in their top 5. I also think it's one of the best albums of the 80's of any genre.
Edited by Blacksword - May 11 2017 at 03:07
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: May 11 2017 at 00:47 |
I think I would even say I like it more than Fragile (not CTTE or TYA or TFTO's though)
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: May 11 2017 at 00:45 |
Yes is possibly the only prog band that I really like at their commercial peak, the album is still full of moments not alien to their older work. There are minimalist elements, pseudo-Police sounding parts, guitar solos and still a lot of heart in the songwriting. Of course it has a real 80s sound, but it seems to have aged well!
Edited by Thatfabulousalien - May 11 2017 at 00:45
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 10 2017 at 23:52 |
This one, and Big Generator, were my 'gateway' to Yes back around '87. I appreciate both but have moved on from them - y'know ; Topographic, Fragile, Drama...... Thanks, 90125. Still love the song Changes.
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