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 Posted: September 15 2020 at 12:19 |
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Elementary, my dear Paul! I believed people would vote for 1980 ALSO because of Melt, Permanent Waves, Drama ( which you yourself like), Scary Monsters (featuring the genius none other than Robert Fripp), and perhaps most importantly the birth of the neo prog wave. A lot of stuff, therefore - and they're just my favourites. |
wait... what?! what happened in 1980 that lead to the birth of neo-prog?  |
Prog rock declined in the late 70s, but in 1980 there was a bit of a revival if you remember (possibly due to Another Brick in the Wall) which I personally think was where neo began. I know this is a very debatable subject. |
Not debatable at all, but The Wall got nothing to do with neo prog. Other Floyd album, maybe, but not The Wall. Also Gilmour and Wright definitely influenced neo-prog musicians.
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I know it's got nothing to do with neo prog! It just sparked a comeback in the prog rock genre as a whole, leading to people becoming interested in prog, leading them to creating a new prog genre - neo prog. I'm glad you say it is not debatable, though - and my idea of prog history is not like our dear friend Svetonio. And on Svetonio/Boboulo, why on earth does he bombard my thread with album covers? What is the point of it? To annoy us? |
Neo-prog started really building an audience in 1982-1983. Check out what Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ were doing in those times, so that you understand the genre. 
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It started building an audience then, but those bands you mentioned started 1979/1980. They only started making the classic neo we know and love today 1982-1983, but I think neo began before that - a bit like modern prog today, it developed the essence of the genre 2018-present, beyond then... who knows. "Check out what Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ were doing in those times" - I have. A long, long time ago. 
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Posted: September 15 2020 at 12:26 |
FatherChristmas wrote:
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Cristi wrote:
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Elementary, my dear Paul! I believed people would vote for 1980 ALSO because of Melt, Permanent Waves, Drama ( which you yourself like), Scary Monsters (featuring the genius none other than Robert Fripp), and perhaps most importantly the birth of the neo prog wave. A lot of stuff, therefore - and they're just my favourites. |
wait... what?! what happened in 1980 that lead to the birth of neo-prog? |
Prog rock declined in the late 70s, but in 1980 there was a bit of a revival if you remember (possibly due to Another Brick in the Wall) which I personally think was where neo began. I know this is a very debatable subject. |
Not debatable at all, but The Wall got nothing to do with neo prog. Other Floyd album, maybe, but not The Wall. Also Gilmour and Wright definitely influenced neo-prog musicians.
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I know it's got nothing to do with neo prog! It just sparked a comeback in the prog rock genre as a whole, leading to people becoming interested in prog, leading them to creating a new prog genre - neo prog. I'm glad you say it is not debatable, though - and my idea of prog history is not like our dear friend Svetonio. And on Svetonio/Boboulo, why on earth does he bombard my thread with album covers? What is the point of it? To annoy us? |
Neo-prog started really building an audience in 1982-1983. Check out what Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ were doing in those times, so that you understand the genre.
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It started building an audience then, but those bands you mentioned started 1979/1980. They only started making the classic neo we know and love today 1982-1983, but I think neo began before that - a bit like modern prog today, it developed the essence of the genre 2018-present, beyond then... who knows. "Check out what Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ were doing in those times" - I have. A long, long time ago. |
IQ started in 1981. So did Twelfth Night. Marillion got its first stable line up in 1981. So once these bands started building an audience, playing clubs and so on, they got a record contract and the rest is history.
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Posted: September 15 2020 at 12:39 |
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Elementary, my dear Paul! I believed people would vote for 1980 ALSO because of Melt, Permanent Waves, Drama ( which you yourself like), Scary Monsters (featuring the genius none other than Robert Fripp), and perhaps most importantly the birth of the neo prog wave. A lot of stuff, therefore - and they're just my favourites. |
wait... what?! what happened in 1980 that lead to the birth of neo-prog? |
Prog rock declined in the late 70s, but in 1980 there was a bit of a revival if you remember (possibly due to Another Brick in the Wall) which I personally think was where neo began. I know this is a very debatable subject. |
Not debatable at all, but The Wall got nothing to do with neo prog. Other Floyd album, maybe, but not The Wall. Also Gilmour and Wright definitely influenced neo-prog musicians.
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I know it's got nothing to do with neo prog! It just sparked a comeback in the prog rock genre as a whole, leading to people becoming interested in prog, leading them to creating a new prog genre - neo prog. I'm glad you say it is not debatable, though - and my idea of prog history is not like our dear friend Svetonio. And on Svetonio/Boboulo, why on earth does he bombard my thread with album covers? What is the point of it? To annoy us? |
Neo-prog started really building an audience in 1982-1983. Check out what Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ were doing in those times, so that you understand the genre.
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It started building an audience then, but those bands you mentioned started 1979/1980. They only started making the classic neo we know and love today 1982-1983, but I think neo began before that - a bit like modern prog today, it developed the essence of the genre 2018-present, beyond then... who knows. "Check out what Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ were doing in those times" - I have. A long, long time ago. |
IQ started in 1981. So did Twelfth Night. Marillion got its first stable line up in 1981. So once these bands started building an audience, playing clubs and so on, they got a record contract and the rest is history. |
Twelth Night began 1978, Marillion began in 1979 but IQ's right.
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Posted: September 15 2020 at 12:47 |
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Elementary, my dear Paul! I believed people would vote for 1980 ALSO because of Melt, Permanent Waves, Drama ( which you yourself like), Scary Monsters (featuring the genius none other than Robert Fripp), and perhaps most importantly the birth of the neo prog wave. A lot of stuff, therefore - and they're just my favourites. |
wait... what?! what happened in 1980 that lead to the birth of neo-prog? |
Prog rock declined in the late 70s, but in 1980 there was a bit of a revival if you remember (possibly due to Another Brick in the Wall) which I personally think was where neo began. I know this is a very debatable subject. |
Not debatable at all, but The Wall got nothing to do with neo prog. Other Floyd album, maybe, but not The Wall. Also Gilmour and Wright definitely influenced neo-prog musicians.
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I know it's got nothing to do with neo prog! It just sparked a comeback in the prog rock genre as a whole, leading to people becoming interested in prog, leading them to creating a new prog genre - neo prog. I'm glad you say it is not debatable, though - and my idea of prog history is not like our dear friend Svetonio. And on Svetonio/Boboulo, why on earth does he bombard my thread with album covers? What is the point of it? To annoy us? |
Neo-prog started really building an audience in 1982-1983. Check out what Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ were doing in those times, so that you understand the genre.
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It started building an audience then, but those bands you mentioned started 1979/1980. They only started making the classic neo we know and love today 1982-1983, but I think neo began before that - a bit like modern prog today, it developed the essence of the genre 2018-present, beyond then... who knows. "Check out what Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ were doing in those times" - I have. A long, long time ago. |
IQ started in 1981. So did Twelfth Night. Marillion got its first stable line up in 1981. So once these bands started building an audience, playing clubs and so on, they got a record contract and the rest is history. |
Twelth Night began 1978, Marillion began in 1979 but IQ's right. |
Marillion began in 1979, but first copuple of years, there was no stable line up, just an idea. Same with IQ. Twelfth night started making some music in 1979, but really picked up in 1981-1982. Pallas slowly built an audience in the early 80s, but only manged to have a record label by 1983-1984. It was the success of Marillion, IQ and Twelfth Night that lead to Pallas, Pendragon, Solstice etc. to make music.
Edited by Cristi - September 15 2020 at 12:47
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Posted: September 15 2020 at 14:35 |
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Cristi wrote:
FatherChristmas wrote:
Elementary, my dear Paul! I believed people would vote for 1980 ALSO because of Melt, Permanent Waves, Drama ( which you yourself like), Scary Monsters (featuring the genius none other than Robert Fripp), and perhaps most importantly the birth of the neo prog wave. A lot of stuff, therefore - and they're just my favourites. |
wait... what?! what happened in 1980 that lead to the birth of neo-prog? |
Prog rock declined in the late 70s, but in 1980 there was a bit of a revival if you remember (possibly due to Another Brick in the Wall) which I personally think was where neo began. I know this is a very debatable subject. |
Not debatable at all, but The Wall got nothing to do with neo prog. Other Floyd album, maybe, but not The Wall. Also Gilmour and Wright definitely influenced neo-prog musicians.
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I know it's got nothing to do with neo prog! It just sparked a comeback in the prog rock genre as a whole, leading to people becoming interested in prog, leading them to creating a new prog genre - neo prog. I'm glad you say it is not debatable, though - and my idea of prog history is not like our dear friend Svetonio. And on Svetonio/Boboulo, why on earth does he bombard my thread with album covers? What is the point of it? To annoy us? |
Neo-prog started really building an audience in 1982-1983. Check out what Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ were doing in those times, so that you understand the genre.
|
It started building an audience then, but those bands you mentioned started 1979/1980. They only started making the classic neo we know and love today 1982-1983, but I think neo began before that - a bit like modern prog today, it developed the essence of the genre 2018-present, beyond then... who knows. "Check out what Twelfth Night, Marillion and IQ were doing in those times" - I have. A long, long time ago. |
IQ started in 1981. So did Twelfth Night. Marillion got its first stable line up in 1981. So once these bands started building an audience, playing clubs and so on, they got a record contract and the rest is history. |
Twelth Night began 1978, Marillion began in 1979 but IQ's right. |
Marillion began in 1979, but first copuple of years, there was no stable line up, just an idea. Same with IQ. Twelfth night started making some music in 1979, but really picked up in 1981-1982. Pallas slowly built an audience in the early 80s, but only manged to have a record label by 1983-1984. It was the success of Marillion, IQ and Twelfth Night that lead to Pallas, Pendragon, Solstice etc. to make music.
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I think we shoud continue this discussion on the neo prog thread before we go totally of topic.
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Posted: September 16 2020 at 10:32 |
Well, I have been criticised for saying 2019 was the clear winner of the '10s; I somehow do not believe I will be quite so contested when I say '72 is the clear winner here!
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Posted: September 16 2020 at 10:36 |
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Criticized quite rightly.
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Posted: September 16 2020 at 10:44 |
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Criticized quite rightly. |
True, I closed the poll to early. However, 2019 still has the most votes, so I didn't change it.
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Posted: February 24 2021 at 21:06 |
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72 easily.
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