Two early VdGG epics

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Two early epics, both from 1970-ish, final pieces of respective LPs. Really curious what you think.

Poll Question: Which is better?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
After the Flood	9	[42.86%]
Pioneers Over c	12	[57.14%]
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thief Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 21 2015 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1546	Post Options Post Reply Quote thief Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Two early VdGG epics Posted: September 18 2020 at 04:43
	Two early epics, both from 1970-ish, final pieces of respective LPs. Really curious what you think.

Boboulo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 21 2020 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 661	Post Options Post Reply Quote Boboulo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 18 2020 at 05:43
	"After the Flood"

christmasmusic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Christmaspam aka SPAM Joined: September 18 2020 Location: Liver-more, Cal Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote christmasmusic Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 18 2020 at 05:45
	Yes

I prophesy disaster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 31 2017 Location: Australia Status: Online Points: 4592	Post Options Post Reply Quote I prophesy disaster Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 18 2020 at 05:46
	Both are great tracks. But "Pioneers Over c" gets my vote. It was initially my favourite track from the album, but I've come to appreciate "Lost" more. Nevertheless, it is still one of my all-time favourite tracks (not just from VdGG). "After the Flood" is my favourite track from the album. Both tracks are final tracks, and both tracks contain a VdGG cacophonous section (always a good thing ).
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	"We are the lost ones; we...are the pioneers!"
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Manuel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12375	Post Options Post Reply Quote Manuel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 18 2020 at 11:21
	Pioneers takes my vote, but both are really good.

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	After the Flood: its my all-time fave VDGG track.
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	Flood
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	I really don't know. I like both equally. So, I can't vote on this poll.
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thief Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 21 2015 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1546	Post Options Post Reply Quote thief Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 21 2020 at 00:23
	I revisited both albums extensively last week and found out that, grudgingly, that Pioneers Over c don't really work for me anymore. It used to feel like a proper closer for a 5 star album in the past, but this time I found the "free sax" part an unnecessary noodling and whole track feels disjointed... :( After the Flood - on the contrary, it fits like a glove. The whole album sounds like a musical exploration of chiaroscuro concept, "dramatic illumination", and the final piece serves that goal perfectly!

geekfreak Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872	Post Options Post Reply Quote geekfreak Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: September 21 2020 at 00:42
	Both epics are worthy of the vote and both are fav`s of mine...But by a whisker Pioneers Over c
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	Two absolute masterpieces
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