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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19249 |
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Yeah, kind of. I had an uncle who passed away in February after sustaining injuries from a car accident after a week. He was 95 but still. Most of my other relatives who passed away I wasn't particularly close to. This recent one from my old friend seems to have cut the deepest though. |
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Jaketejas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 27 2018 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2190 |
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Both are great, but I think the songwriting is consistently good to excellent on Signals whereas Grace Under Pressure is less consistent. I think the same is true if you compare Power Windows with Hold Your Fire, with Power Windows having the edge. The albums after that period are not as strong until you hit Counterparts, when they changed their sound towards grunge … but I digress. Having said that, Distant Early Warning is such a great 80s-era Rush song, so Grace Under Pressure is worth a listen. Signals was also a bold move in terms of sound coming off their best-known album, Moving Pictures. And, Subdivisions is truly a masterpiece.
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Disconnect ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Syracuse, NY Status: Offline Points: 319 |
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Signals for me
the because = 'Losing It' |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19249 |
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Thanks. It really is especially initially. The thing is I hadn't seen him in over 25 years (although I did correspond with him breifly via email just before Covid started) but it still is difficult. He was actually sort of a local icon (he was a professional poet) where he lived (where I grew up) so it's easy to find information about him and read his stuff online although I find that to be a bit painful so I don't do too much of it. It kind of reminds me of Neil's passing in a way (although a differernt form of cancer). Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - April 23 2025 at 17:04 |
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 18025 |
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Dang man, sorry about that, so tough to deal with and process. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38363 |
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^ Very sorry to hear that too, Mike. Please take care, It has become a frequent occurrence in my life (every few months seem to lose someone who has been very important in my and/or my wife's lives). It does happen more as you and they get older... And I don't even have many close friends or family members. For the more sociable of you it would be worse still. Still, mourning regularly.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17464 |
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Sorry to hear that Mike. I know. It's crazy after a certain age if feels like it's just one after another between friends and family members. Times flies. |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19249 |
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I totally agree about "afterimage." I just found out recently that an old friend of mine (and a very good one at one point also) passed away recently of cancer. I'm still trying to deal with it and one of the songs I've been playing a bit of on youtube (as part of the healing process) is "afterimage." |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38363 |
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Signals pour moi.
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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This is the main reason I stopped buying Rush albums after Presto. It was almost as if they realized they had such a devoted audience that they could get away with anything after 1990 and the fans would automatically keep coming back for more. Recording and touring was no longer a hunger or about creative exploration, but just a very profitable hobby. |
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Hector Enrique ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 26 2019 Location: Lima, Peru Status: Offline Points: 817 |
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I like both, but I think Signals is a few steps ahead of GuP with Subdivisions, The Weapon and Losing it.
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I prefer Signals, but I do like Grace Under Pressure.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17464 |
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"Afterimage" is a lyric that hits home at a certain age when you start having to say goodbyes. So many of the songs resonated with friends and myself at the time, and all of us were "early Rush" fans so it was remarkable. We didn't like Signals, but Grace was pretty enthusiastically received by all of us in my little group of high school dorks. We were all living with the constant trauma of having missed the 70s concert scene for being too young, so we took what scraps we were thrown in the 80s and made the best of it. ![]() |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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neither, but GUP
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19249 |
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I went with both equally on this one. Signals was the first one I bought and heard but "distant early warning" is my favorite song from anything on either album and there's a few other gems on there too. Overall, I can't really choose between them which is why I decided to go for both equally.
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2112 is far from their best record, a bit juvenile if you ask me. Signals on the other hand was & is a terrific record despite the synths and shortened thematics. As far as your "eight more fantastic songs" and GUP being a "perfect album", you must be a second-gen Rush fan, it's the only explanation. And while I agree Roll the Bones was not their peak (saw that tour too), at least it had a modicum of heart. Grace Under Pressure was a bowl of cold stone soup. |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17464 |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17464 |
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Never! Still love it. Agree with you, though, on Grace being a perfect album. |
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I almost got off the RUSH bus with Signals, but I did get off that bus with Grace Under Pressure. Not a big fan of their synth years. But I did return to RUSH in the mid-nineties and picked up those albums I had passed on earlier. Voted Signals.
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