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    Posted: March 04 2008 at 23:35
No I dont consider Deep Purple as prog or prog-related.Just because they made three albums in the sixties who sound a bit proggish doesnt make the rest of the albums they made prog. They are simple bluesbased hardrock. I mean c'mon that sound is what made DP famous. It is a little odd calling Deep Purple a prog band simply because three obscure albums that nobodys heard of. That is a bit like calling bands like Status Quo, Krokus or Journey prog or prog-related because of their early work. I dont really consider those sixties albums as progrock, they sound more like psychedelic bluesrock . But you could call that prog-related.
What I agree even less with is people who say that they are not heavy metal. They are 100% pure heavy metal and without them bands like AC/DC, Montrose, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Van Halen simply wouldnt have excisted or would have sounded like Bad Company. I dont know were this whole trend of saying that classic HM bands like Deep Purple arent heavy metal comes from but its a load of nonsense
 
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It may have some moments of prog like specific songs but never an entire album.
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DP of course is not the ugly definition of METAL. It's hard rock/classic rock.

I only consider In Rock a Proto Metal Album. Then the Evan era Psych/Hard Rock. And then hard rock.
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Originally posted by Karn Evil 9 Karn Evil 9 wrote:

Originally posted by eddietrooper eddietrooper wrote:

Have you heard "Concert for Group and Orchestra" (an early album by Deep Purple)? In that album Deep Purple tried to mix rock and classical music.  That is at least prog-related. And later in their harder albums Jon Lord's organ was pretty progressive.

well you could call that prog related, or you could call that Neo-Classical, much like Yngwie Malmsteen's work. Of course there are plenty of differances, but there are enough similarities.

I made the mistake of purchasing the cd of that album, and its actually Steve Morse on guitars. The cd is a remade version that isnt the same as the origional(which is on DVD). While I have no problem with steve morse, he cant compare to Ritchie Blackmore.

 




prog related?????? bahh!!!!!  how much more prog did that album need to be???

an article that ended up in my P.M. one day on another site....

http://www.musicweb.uk.net/arnold/lord.htm

read that.. and tell me it's.... prog-related.   Deep Purple  mk. 1 was a 1st generation prog group and probably amoung that group of the innovators behind the whole movement in the late 60's
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Originally posted by eddietrooper eddietrooper wrote:

Have you heard "Concert for Group and Orchestra" (an early album by Deep Purple)? In that album Deep Purple tried to mix rock and classical music.  That is at least prog-related. And later in their harder albums Jon Lord's organ was pretty progressive.

well you could call that prog related, or you could call that Neo-Classical, much like Yngwie Malmsteen's work. Of course there are plenty of differances, but there are enough similarities.

I made the mistake of purchasing the cd of that album, and its actually Steve Morse on guitars. The cd is a remade version that isnt the same as the origional(which is on DVD). While I have no problem with steve morse, he cant compare to Ritchie Blackmore.

 
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Have you heard "Concert for Group and Orchestra" (an early album by Deep Purple)? In that album Deep Purple tried to mix rock and classical music.  That is at least prog-related. And later in their harder albums Jon Lord's organ was pretty progressive.
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in 1970 at the time "IN ROCK" was released Purple were considered a prog rock group because of "CHILD IN TIME" but since then there have been many twists and turns!

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Originally posted by eugene eugene wrote:

Originally posted by spo1977 spo1977 wrote:

I still think they are prog.

No, they are not.

They are one of the greatest hard rock bands on Earth. Everything they have done between 1968 and 1974 is either masterpice or very close to masterpiece. But they are not prog.

I'll rate some of those albums tonight on my homepage ... I guess that for some of them the progressiveness will be around 3/10.
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Originally posted by spo1977 spo1977 wrote:

I still think they are prog.

No, they are not.

They are one of the greatest hard rock bands on Earth. Everything they have done between 1968 and 1974 is either masterpice or very close to masterpiece. But they are not prog.
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I think they can be considered prog-related but it doesn't really matter cuz prog or not they are of the greatest bands ever( and in my opinion one of the best).
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Points: 822 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2006 at 02:57
   I'm happy enough with DP being tagged as prog-related.Please lets not let this thread degenerate into the drivel appearing on a similar one (and if you havent fallen into it,dont bother looking cos it aint worth it). Its good to see some intelligent and civilised debate!
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I still think they are prog.
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Points: 1148 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 19:00
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

 

It is what it is, and it is subtly -- or even radically -- different for each of us.

Perhaps, prog are what it is.

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Points: 1125 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2006 at 18:41

Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

DP shuld be removed from this site they are no good and 0% prog. 1 of the most overrated bands ever IMO.

You obviously have escaped from some highly secure institution.
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They are not prog, but what a great music.
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Originally posted by Zargus Zargus wrote:

DP shuld be removed from this site they are no good and 0% prog. 1 of the most overrated bands ever IMO.


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DP shuld be removed from this site they are no good and 0% prog. 1 of the most overrated bands ever IMO.
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Points: 1485 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2006 at 23:19
Originally posted by ken4musiq ken4musiq wrote:

I totally agree with every word Peter
wrote. This is why I don't classify Deep Purple as prog and Neil Young is.
Just me. I keep it to myself and don't waste too much time with "is this
prog/no it sucks" threads that are getting seriously boring.  >>


 


I think that you touched on the reason prog die; it became so narrowly
defined.  Originally, it applied to everything from The Band to Procol
Harum.  Yes and Genesis were known as art rock for a while and then art
rock became prog, which was a very constricted notion of what was
happening musically at the time.  Is there any wonder the neo-prog
bands sounded like Yes and Genesis?  Now you have prog metal, which
many do not consider prog. 

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Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Originally posted by Flip_Stone Flip_Stone wrote:

They aren't [progressive].  They may have had the classic prog. lineup (vocals, guitar, bass, keyboards, drums) and may have sounded sort of adventurous in their early days, but they were never progressive.

 

In my opinion they sounded pretty adventourous thoughout there whole career.

But thats besides the point. The reason Deep Purple are here is because in there very early days they made classically influenced covers of pop songs ala Vanilla Fudge. I honestly think they were below par and were amazing when they figured out what they should have been playing, somewhat prog influenced hard rock.

Yeah. This rings true. "Back in the day" there was a connection between Deep Purple and Vanilla fudge. I think maybe Moby grape and a lot of the bands which had stoner names like Ultimate Spinach and the electric prunes were in those days were 'progressive' in other words they were progressing away from the tree which had it`s roots in rock and roll and southern american blues. They were branches. We accept the branch which included Comus etc. I wouldn`t venture to say where Deep Purple fit now but when the "semiprog genre" was dreamt up I thought perfect "volleyball is the devil`s advocate"
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