Danny Carey vs. Mike Portney

I think people here are judging by preferences and how how overrated or underrated these drumers are rather than analyzing there tremendous muscisianship,talent and originality. Besides these commonly know drummer there are many other who surpass these two the problems is that they aren't that known as Mike or Danny. As for me it's a though one but clearly I liked more Portnoy.

Portnoy for me. Yes, his playing tends to be a bit "verbose", but I really dig it. 

StyLaZyn wrote: King Crimson776 wrote: StyLaZyn wrote: Because he stated he is not an improvisational drummer does not mean he can't. Don't take it out of context. Peart's strength is on composition. His solo's are so structured because that's the way he wants it. He desires them to be strictly formatted. Of course he can, I didn't say he couldn't, he just sucks at it. I didn't take it out of context. If the solos are structured and strictly formatted, they aren't solos. Solos are improv, not structured runs. He's a good drummer, not a good soloist.   Can you give us proof of him "sucking" at it? I gave an example of him NOT sucking at it.   Improv is improv. Solos are solos. There is really no comparison.  A solo can be improv'd. Improvisation is a type of solo or playing. A solo, like the previous poster notes, is one person playing, whether structured or off the cuff.

Well, it is true that some of my favorite musicians completely plan out their solos in studio. The point I'm making I guess is that he's bad at improv, every time I've seen him improv, it was bad. You didn't give proof of him not sucking, you referenced some demo tape that I can't hear. I gave an example of him saying that he's not an improvisational drummer, which could mean he's still alright at it, but every time I've heard him solo, whether structured or not, it's uninteresting, for me at least. The video imo was proof of him sucking, but that was actually pretty planned. It's subjective though so maybe you like his solos (improv or not), that he sucks at it is my opinion. But him stating that he's not an improvisational drummer should tell you enough about what he thinks of that aspect of his playing.

^^ it didn't work, it just gave me a blank doc. You probably have a windows. Look, I believe you, the guys a professional, I'm sure he can pull some decent sh*t off from time to time. His solos have always bored me though.

I think Portnoy is the better conventional type of drummer which is why he is so sought after for session or guest work.Carey has a much darker tribal style that I personally find more appealling and he gets my vote.However I saw DT live the other week and must say throughout the concert my eyes kept getting drawn back to watching Portnoy.