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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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I don't know for sure how the ads work, but I think the site effectively sells its space to an ad providing company, It is them who select the ads which are displayed.
There is something to this effect in the privacy policy (which I had not read before
![]() In order to keep the two issues separate (annoyances vs. malware) I'll restrict any updates on the malware issue to this thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43331
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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I understand the necessity of ads and I thank you guys for taking care of the bad ones. I do think a little more screening and vigilance would be nice.
Scam ads (anything that promises something free) and ads with sound should not be allowed. Music and music related ads are totally fine and frankly those advertisers are going to get the most bang for their buck here anyway. On a little aside, I fell for a spam scam e-mail that promised a free laptop, they kept making you jump through all of these offer hoops and once I saw it basically never ends and realized that I had been suckered I quit. Maybe I was just one hoop away from that free laptop. ![]() On a positive note, one of the offers was BMG Music Club, which generally sucks in terms of their progressive music selections (I pretty much have all the good stuff there), but I did get my first Porcupine Tree album (In Absentia) there. Of course, I had to go to other sources for the rest of their stuff. Edited by Slartibartfast - December 08 2007 at 10:43 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Just to keep you updated, M@x is still investigating the Malware ad, but it is proving very difficult to trace. He is making some changes, and may seek some help from those who have reported it.
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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I agree with MO. Ads are OK, but the iPOD ads and especially the Malware thing (is must be a virus-installer or something because it keeps coming back) are very invasive and very insulting and make PA no fun to come to. I'll gladly sit back with a google ad thing at the top or bottom of the screen, just no pop-ups or audio ads.
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Man Overboard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 07 2004 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
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I didn't bother checking for other threads, I was under the assumption that other threads on this subject would be locked. |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Looks like you missed this thread MO:
M@x is dealing with it.
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Man Overboard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 07 2004 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
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Agreed. I'm also quite against this new ad that crashes my Firefox with its attempt to install "anti-spyware software". The site that ProgArchives forcefully directs you to is classified by Google as "harmful to computers". Christ. |
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MonkeyphoneAlex ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 27 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 234 |
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As I've stated previously in this thread, I have no problem with a few visual ads to help pay for the site. It is, however, EXTREMELY irritating to have the ads make noise/speak every time I refresh the page, especially since I have music playing on my computer 90 percent of the time I spend on this site. |
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"Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is THE BEST."
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ghost_of_morphy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2755 |
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I'm all for the site making money. I find very few of the ads really detract from the experience of the site. My only real objection is to the sound in the various Ipod ads. Someone would make me very happy indeed if we could get rid of those. As for the rest, I see no reason to complain.
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mosni lamf ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() Joined: May 04 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 50 |
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I have an ad-blocker and I still get many ads, including the one that Peter refered to. Of all the web pages that I regularly visit, PA is I think the most intrusive in terms of ads.
I don't want to sound arrogant, I know I'm not an active poster, but I've been visiting the site for a long time, and I can say that my visits have become much much rarer lately. I cannot bother to go through such a flurry of ads. When I click on a page that links to a presentation of a band or an artist, and I see on average 5 to 7 frames containing ads, even if they're not intrusive in the usual sense of the term, I feel insulted, and I think it's an insult for the artist too (or at least very disminishing of his work).
For me, the ads soil the credibility and the independance of the site as a resource for musical artists. The forum has like 16,254 registered members who could potentially contribute financially, plus many unregistered visitors. Would it really be unthinkable to start maintaining it from voluntary contributions only? Edited by mosni lamf - November 28 2007 at 17:05 |
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-Hitler was a vegetarian.
-Bring me coffee or tea. -Why don't you eat carrots? -Eat that question. |
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Man Erg ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 26 2004 Location: Isle of Lucy Status: Offline Points: 7456 |
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Well,I can't be sure but, On Saturday,my PC acquired a 'worm' virus and I had to go out a buy a new hard drive and new security software.This happened when I have Ad Block and Pop up Blocker!
The only site that I had been on so far that day was PAs. What happened was,and I'm not blaming PAS for this occurence,was when I was about to click the scroll bar a pop up advertising smiley emoticons appeared out of nowhere and would not go away.I then re-booted my PC and an alert came up saying that I had a major security / spyware problem. I reported this to my IP who told be to do a search and restore data which I had already done.None of my security systems could find the 'bug' so I have spent the past 36 hours un-installing and re-installing everything on my PC and backing everything up to my hard seperate drive! Edited by Man Erg - November 26 2007 at 04:55 |
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Man Overboard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 07 2004 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
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Look... my tone might be harsh and weary, but it's only because I've got the best interests of the site at heart, and I want to see this problem solved. It hurts a bit to be given such an insult as to be completely ignored and to have the proposal mistaken for a common complaint...
![]() There is a cause and effect relationship to blocking ads. The more they're blocked, the more have to be unloaded to compensate for the users who use bandwidth but do not see the ads. The more they compensate, the worse the ads get, as anyone who's been here for over a year has probably seen. I'm not asking for the world here. Only that people step back for a moment, examine the problem at its roots, and try to come out with a solution that will make the users and the administrators both happy. I've outlined a -possible- solution to this in the thread I linked above. Perhaps this can be a starting point to bring the advert situation back down to a reasonable level, like many other self-sufficient sites with a similar userbase. Or if the idea is completely out of the question, maybe it can at least be an inspiration to show that it -is- fixable, and that it should be. I'm sure that no one -really- like being bombarded with ads. If the ads were reasonable and non-intrusive/destructive, would it really hurt to let them through, rather than having your cake and eating it too by blocking them? I don't want to see ProgArchives vanish, either in a muddled haze of spyware -or- from a lack of server funding. I've been here far too long and have far too much attachment to ever leave, even if at times it's exactly what I feel like doing. ![]() Edited by Man Overboard - November 26 2007 at 04:30 |
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Man Overboard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 07 2004 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
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I came up with a reasonable solution to the problem in this thread. No one knows how to read paragraphs consisting of more than 4 sentences, however, and it was locked, so I'm sure it doesn't matter. But if you want a -serious- solution to the problem, try reading it.
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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KoS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 16310 |
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All with the low price of 4, count 'em 4 E-Z payments of $29.99, S&H not included. |
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Peter ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
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![]() ![]() Vast ist this AbBlock you speak of, mein King of Spam? Some kind of exercise regime?
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KoS ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 17 2005 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 16310 |
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You people still don't know of AdBlock?
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Peter ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
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![]() Men significantly outnumber women in good ol' one-child-only, girl-baby-aborting China -- as if Chinese women can't find husbands there!
![]() Don't say I didn't warn ya, ya buncha proghole horndogs!
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Peter ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
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Well, I think that one could be seen as demeaning, at least, but it was an invitation to "pimp your profile" that originally raised my ire.
(See my first post.)
The main issue, though, is pop ups that cover the screen, and take time to get rid of. The main offender in that regard (Monster.ca) is still here.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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Poser ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 31 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 121 |
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