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Topic: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Appreciation Thread! Posted: November 18 2008 at 22:10 |
I posted my long overdue review of "Of Natural History" earlier today:
Oh deary me! How delightfully disturbing and twisted!
Oh RIO, how many people this subgenre has touched over the years. This is one of the categories that
is at the same time both criminally underrated and overrated, as it has many critics and many
fanboys who would gladly take a bullet for it. The genre is usually ripe with dissonance and
experimentation which leads the more melodic listeners to run and take shelter while the people who
enjoy it will step out into the acid rain and say it tastes like rainbows. But if there's one thing
everyone can agree on it's that this kind of music is normally very strange (which, contrary to
popular belief does NOT automatically make it ''innovative'') and very much an acquired taste. With
Of Natural History, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum [SGM] have created a wonderful opus that will
both make the RIO connoisseurs jump for joy and give the more hesitant listeners a place to start
with the genre.
One of the best things about this band is there very unique approach to the music that they play.
Rock In Opposition (RIO), as stated before, is usually very lacking in melody and derives its
audience from wild experimentation. SGM is often called MIO (Metal In Opposition) by a lot of people
who have the chance to hear them, but even that may be an inaccurate statement while actually
listening closely to the music. SGM have managed to blend RIO with a good amount of symphonic and
very melodic tenancies with the chugging power of industrial music to make for a headbanging album
which is still experimental and highly impressive. Instrumental sections to the album will not only
flow but bash their way through the song in a way that grabs you and takes you along for the ride.
The prime example of this is the excellent Bring Back The Apocalypse, driven by a good amount
of fast chimes and drums until we get to a very beatarific ending in which the ''bring it, bring it
back'' chanting begins and all hope is lost for those who don't know what to expect from the band.
The vocals are surprisingly a draw point to the album. Although gruff, the vocals add a surprising
amount, especially with the two singer combo. The switch between the male and female leads make for
an eclectic mix which is sure to keep you on the edge of your seat. After the bludgeoning raw power
of The Donkey-Headed Adversary Of Humanity Opens The Discussion it's nice to go into the
slow, but no less unsettling Phthisis which is voiced by Carla Kihlstedt (who sounds a lot
like a twisted Bjork who has been locked in an insane-asylum for too long). The percussion is the
other part of the band which really keeps things moving, especially in songs like Phthisis
where it is damn near the only thing which keeps things together (and I mean that in a good way).
Other standouts on the album are plentiful. Most of the songs do tend to run together since the
album is a concept album (which other reviews have gone into in cryptic detail, so I won't), but
there's still a number of songs that work very well on their own. The who epics on the album which
reach over 10-minutes are each very impressive. FC: The Freedom Club is a song that starts
out slow and melodic but turns into one of the most dissonant songs on the album with the drums
still managing to hold everything together - like a tornado which rips across the countryside, its
debris does a lot of damage, but there's still one main force. Babydoctor is a much different
beast, this one is a considerably slower to get going, but when it does it finally explodes with the
force of a bomb. If you're not expecting it, well... prepare to be wiped out. The Creature
works in tandem with it's intro instrumental, the incredibly creepy The 17-Year Cicada to go
through a mostly spoken-word like story which is obviously a metaphor for something (and the
political views shine through yet again). Gunday's Child is another Carla Kihlstedt voiced
track which is a lot more frantic and desperate than the last song she voiced, but still it sounds
like you're standing in the mansion from The Shining looking down the hallway to two girls
who can only say to you, ''hello Danny...'' (or whatever your name is).
For people who like things heavy and experimental will be over the moon with this album, and people
who don't fancy themselves masters of RIO will still be able to get into the album thanks to the way
it's been done. A fair warning though, don't expect anything going into this album, because you're
not going to get it. Expect the unexpected I suppose would be the cliche line to add in here. 4
cockroaches out of 5 for a wild ride which everyone should take at some point or another.
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Posted: November 18 2008 at 22:07 |
The Donkey-headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion
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Posted: August 08 2008 at 12:42 |
Haha good. I was planning to find out where you live if you did say something bad about my beloved ONH.
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Posted: August 08 2008 at 11:19 |
Man, I never said that the intros were bad, or that they should be left out. I'm just saying that it made the album less accessible because at least half the songs had long intros. To me, avant-garde intros take patience to sit through.
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Posted: August 07 2008 at 21:02 |
I loved the hillbilly recordings. I thought it added a lot of demented atmosphere to the album... maybe I was thinking of Gummo when I was listening to it.  And also, I don't think the intros took that large of a chunk from the album, unless, that is, you mean the actual intros from songwriting, but if that's the case, I'd consider those part of the "song" as they are really well-written, and can't really be left out of song as that would take away from the whole effect.
I think something that really makes SGM songs intense, I think, is how they use polyrhythms... remember the crescendo of Babydoctor especially, WOW, or even that of The Companions. It just adds a whole new species of layering on top of their music and makes one's brain almost hurt trying to wrap itself around the immense, rhythmic monstrocities.
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Posted: August 07 2008 at 20:19 |
Pnoom! wrote:
DJPuffyLemon wrote:
Grand Opening is definately more accessible, and I don't really think it could've been shortened that much, especially since its only 58 minutes |
Really, I'd say GOaC is their least accessible by far.
Anyway, it could be shortened a fair bit by removing the unnecessary Sunflower and the good but not as good as the rest Ablutions. Now that would be a kickass album.
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Yeah, get rid of sunflower and you have 8 amazing songs. The album doesn't flow at all. Its more a collection of songs than an "album", to contrast with their next two releases. You can listen to a single track on its own and get more out of it than listening to it in the context of the album.
And its their most accessible because you can take any track from there (with the exception of sunflower) and have a good time for a few minutes. The other two albums are much harder to get into, speaking from my experience/opinion, of natural history is harder to grasp because a lot of the songs are 40% intro, 50% song, and 10% recordings of some redneck. In glorious times is just a racket.
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Posted: August 07 2008 at 19:35 |
Yeah, lyrics are spread throughout the band. from IGT:
Nils - The Companions, The Salt Crown, The Greenless Wreath Matthias - Puppet Show Dan - Formicary Carla - Angle of Repose, The Only Dance Michael - Ossuary
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Posted: August 07 2008 at 19:22 |
Dominic wrote:
el böthy wrote:
Carla writes the lyrics? I was always under the impression Nils and Dan wrote the lyrics
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If you've read any interviews of theirs then you know better than me. I was wondering if Nils wrote his lyrics; Carla wrote hers, or if one band member wrote them all. I was thinking that it might have been Carla considering that the lyrics she wrote for "Borrowed Arms" were interesting to me like SGM's.
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Nearly everyone in the band writes lyrics. Especially on In Glorious Times, the credits to who wrote what lyrics are in the liner notes. And quite a lot of their lyrics are used from other arts, including plays, poetry, and literature. One has to appreciate a band that takes use of James Joyce. :)
I agree, Pnoom!, in a way, while I do like all the songs on GOAC, I think that how they were placed wasn't the best, it made the album feel uneven and lacking of flow. But even those songs that broke the flow were still great in their own right.
Edited by mecca - August 07 2008 at 19:23
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Posted: August 06 2008 at 22:27 |
DJPuffyLemon wrote:
Grand Opening is definately more accessible, and I don't really think it could've been shortened that much, especially since its only 58 minutes |
Really, I'd say GOaC is their least accessible by far. Anyway, it could be shortened a fair bit by removing the unnecessary Sunflower and the good but not as good as the rest Ablutions. Now that would be a kickass album.
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Posted: August 06 2008 at 22:20 |
avalanchemaster wrote:
I spoke to Michael and Nils after the show, very "enlightened" folks too.
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Now what does this sentence mean? Because when I think of california 'enlightened' I think of anti-gov raw vegans.
Mikerinos wrote:
I'm listening to Grand Opening and Closing. It's a good album, but I can't help but feel it could have reduced from 77 minutes to about 50-55. I'd like to check out Of Natural History since it's apparently better and the sample is great. |
Grand Opening is definately more accessible, and I don't really think it could've been shortened that much, especially since its only 58 minutes:
1. Sleep is Wrong (6:35) 2. Ambugaton (5:38) 3. Ablutions (6:05) 4. 1997 (4:48) 5. The Miniature (0:59) 6. Powerless (9:30) 7. The Stain (6:46) 8. Sleepytime (10:16) 9. Sunflower (7:52)
Total Time: 58:29
Of natural history is 72 minutes though, maybe you mistook it with that?
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Posted: August 06 2008 at 22:05 |
In Glorious Times is just as good as ONH. The songwriting is better IMHO, though the album isn't as cohesive.
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Posted: August 06 2008 at 21:59 |
Mikerinos wrote:
I'm listening to Grand Opening and Closing. It's a good album, but I can't help but feel it could have reduced from 77 minutes to about 50-55. I'd like to check out Of Natural History since it's apparently better and the sample is great.
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Grand Opening and Closing is the album I have from them as well. Looking forward to checking out Of Natural History as it appears to be a consensus best.
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Posted: August 06 2008 at 21:53 |
el böthy wrote:
Carla writes the lyrics? I was always under the impression Nils and Dan wrote the lyrics
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If you've read any interviews of theirs then you know better than me. I was wondering if Nils wrote his lyrics; Carla wrote hers, or if one band member wrote them all. I was thinking that it might have been Carla considering that the lyrics she wrote for "Borrowed Arms" were interesting to me like SGM's.
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Posted: July 27 2008 at 01:53 |
Definitely. I think what completes ONH and kind of goes underrated is the percussion. Oh boy, that percussion.
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Posted: July 27 2008 at 01:44 |
heyitsthatguy wrote:
everything they did on Grand Opening they did better on Of Natural History
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Fact.
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Posted: July 27 2008 at 01:33 |
everything they did on Grand Opening they did better on Of Natural History
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Posted: July 26 2008 at 21:57 |
I'm listening to Grand Opening and Closing. It's a good album, but I can't help but feel it could have reduced from 77 minutes to about 50-55. I'd like to check out Of Natural History since it's apparently better and the sample is great.
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mecca
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Posted: July 25 2008 at 00:43 |
3 new songs are on youtube. Good quality too.
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Posted: July 22 2008 at 14:26 |
SGM is an exceptional band! they are also outstanding live! I recommend you check out their live set if they come near you. One of the most intense, tight, intriguing live bands I have ever seen! They are really nice peeps too. I spoke to Michael and Nils after the show, very "enlightened" folks too. oh and all of their albums are great for different reasons. I cannot pick one over the other......
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Posted: July 21 2008 at 14:11 |
listen to 'The Donkey Headed Adversary of Humanity Opens the Discussion" here on PA that should be the test of whether you'd like them or not
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