Classic QF #2 - The Rotters Club v. YS
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Topic: Classic QF #2 - The Rotters Club v. YS
Posted By: micky
Subject: Classic QF #2 - The Rotters Club v. YS
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 10:11
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Next up... Classic Quarterfinal #2. A great matchup of two of the best albums left in the tournament. Hate to see a loser here. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 10:23
| First vote for YS! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 10:25
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and 2nd ... I have a LOT.. LOT of time for The Rotters Club.. but YS it is not. There simply is no album that does what YS does.. while TRC is one of many greats in that particular musical vein. I love it more.. but in the end giving the vote to the more unique.. and progressive album ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: GKR
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 10:27
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As brazilian, I must have some italian blood lost in so many mixtures... so... I'am going with YS. (this was not supposed to make sense) ------------- - From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 10:32
| This one is a bit harder. It all depends on the mood I'm in. |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 10:42
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This is going to be a very one-sided poll I'm afraid... Ys it is for me as well! ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 10:46
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Rotters Club easily, sublime ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 10:56
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The Italians. ------------- 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 11:28
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Rotters Club! ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 12:13
| One for the mad Hatfields. Ys is a great album but it doesn't really have the nuance that The Rotters Club brings to the table. |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 12:27
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Ys -------------  
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 12:33
Turns out I was wrong... ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Tuzvihar wrote:Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 12:37
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Cu-Sn alloy. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 13:19
This poll will require much meditation and reflection... ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 15:05
or as that one dude noted earlier in the thread.. which mood you happen to be in when you decide to vote.  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 15:08
^ You know what, Micky? Now that you changed your avy I keep confusing you with http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2290" rel="nofollow - memowakeman .  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 15:09
Yeah... I can't imagine how people can keep the same avatart for years.. and years. It isn't like you married the damn thing.. variety is the spice of life.  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 15:16
Damn right!  But on the other hand... Such an invariable avatar makes the person instantly recognizable. It's like a trademark. ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 15:20
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no doubt.. I have people tell me they think of me whenever they see a Battiato album cover ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 18:00
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I love YS but this time it's against Canterbury masterpiece, so ... |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 18:31
| Even though I knew right away I would vote for YS, both rate very high with me. |
Posted By: t d wombat
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 20:09
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Wow ... how hard is this one going to be ? Full listen required. Cue Balletto . ------------- Andrew B “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.” ― Julius Henry Marx |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 21:08
Humpf...  ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: t d wombat
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 22:59
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I think I'm going tactical with this one. Ys is a fabulous album. Edgy, most definitely classic Prog and well worth a bunch of accolades. Reedy vocals are a bit iffy and I admit stylistically it's not what I'd routinely listen to, sometimes you have to approve of stuff you don't fully get. Rotters , is a ball tearer. Wonderful album, worth its place in the annals of Prog and the fact it's opened up a few new things for me simply adds to its appeal. However .... I do see RC as an album that could give Pawn Hearts a run for its money whereas I doubt Ys would. So I'm going with RC in the hope that maybe just maybe it can knock off the seemingly unbeatable favourite. Given that PH has won every round with ease that is probably a forlorn hope but one can but try. ------------- Andrew B “Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.” ― Julius Henry Marx |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: September 12 2015 at 23:05
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Balletto ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: September 13 2015 at 03:25
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Hatfields are in a league of their own. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: September 13 2015 at 08:36
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Damn tough choice........... Flipping a coin..... YS. Hey what do ya know, it was two headed RPI coin ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 13 2015 at 09:29
yeah... I got one of those as well. Aldo gave me one when I met him and found out I was 'micky' from PA's ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: September 13 2015 at 09:35
| Today I'm hungover and voted for Rotter's Club. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: September 13 2015 at 12:57
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As I said in the other thread, this would've been a deserved final of the classics for me, at least from the albums that's left in the tournament. Love both, but The Rotters' Club just so much more, so, in the end, it was an easy choice. -------------  
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Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: September 13 2015 at 13:21
 ------------- There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark... |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 13 2015 at 16:00
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No contest here...a classic Canterbury album over a noisy and overrated RPI one. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: September 13 2015 at 23:05
| The Rotters Club |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 04:44
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Love both but Ys. Rotters Club is such a warm and "nice" little album to listen to. The Italians on the other hand broke the mould with Ys. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 04:51
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I will keep saying it, I don't see how people rate the Rotters Club over the debut. ------------- 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 05:59
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Ys, but both are excellent. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 11:26
Same here. Voted for YS, but it would be much tougher if Hatfield's self-titled was involved...
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 11:55
Yeah, sorry mick. Ys has always gotten mountains of praise but I could never quite figure out the love. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 11:58
I even picture you as looking like the guy on your favorite Battiato album. My vote: Clotter's Rub. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 13:36
Heh....both Hatfields are better than that noisy RPI thing. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 15:54
and I will keep saying it... the debut is a cocaine in the bloodstream.. an immediate high. It was my favorite for years.. The Rotters Club is the most prog of drugs.. one that may take multiple hits before leaving you drooling and wishing Richard Sinclair was your bitch... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 16:16
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I can't choose between the two Hatfield albums to be honest ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 16:21
they are quite different Ian IMO... and both are great at their particular takes (the debut traditional whimsical Canterbury and the 2nd more in serious J-R/F territory) ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: symphonicman
Date Posted: September 14 2015 at 19:51
Il Balletto di Bronzo, Ys.------------- Master James of St. George. Of the fields and the sky. He used to build castles of stone, steel, and blood. But lines get broken down. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 15 2015 at 15:59
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HATN ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: September 15 2015 at 16:39
oh I get that, I just adore them equally. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 15 2015 at 16:47
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Just something I read the other day but thought was interesting was an interview with long time Delerium label owner Richard Allen who while touring with one of his label bands Porcupine Tree in Italy asked the promoter there what was the best 70's album from Italy. The promoter replied YS by Il Balletto Di Bronzo. So he picked it up and said it was indeed amazing or something like that. I guess Richard used to ask this question to promoters in the different countries he would visit in order to find new music. This was in the nineties I believe. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 16 2015 at 10:11
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love the Hatfields but I have to vote for Ys ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 16 2015 at 10:32
| In spite of my love for Canterbury, It must be YS. |
Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: September 16 2015 at 10:44
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Posted By: progrockdeepcuts
Date Posted: September 16 2015 at 19:17
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Sorry Ys! It's the Hats. ------------- Listen to older shows here: mixcloud.com/progrockdeepcuts/ |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: September 17 2015 at 09:37
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Done meditating...we are going for YS here. The only reason RC isn't getting the vote is because I'm not a huge fan of the tracks "Didn't Matter Anyway" and "Underdub", while YS is strong throughout. Both YS and the Hatfield's debut are more consistent but neither has anything as great as "Mumps" on them. So, ultimately, this is a battle between (IMO) the greatest RPI album ever and one of the greatest Canterbury albums. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 19 2015 at 07:37
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Ys would've got my vote against most other albums, but not against the wondrous The Rotters' Club - one of the greatest albums ever made. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 19 2015 at 07:41
funny Daryl... I'd consider YS the only RPI album to seriously merit inclusion in a greatest prog albums ever discussion...yet wouldn't consider it the greatest RPI album. That I would give to Palepoli which is totally and unabashedly ... Italian. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |