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Topic: Hey! My book is now out!
Posted By: emigre80
Subject: Hey! My book is now out!
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 06:06
After five years of work, my book has finally been published.  It was supposed to be out on Nov. 11th - Armistice Day - but Amazon has jumped the gun and everyone else has followed.  Amazon.uk says it will be available Nov. 30th.
http://www.amazon.com/Christmas-Truce-Memory-First-World/dp/0813166152/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446811643&sr=8-1&keywords=christmas+truce" rel="nofollow - http://www.amazon.com/Christmas-Truce-Memory-First-World/dp/0813166152/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446811643&sr=8-1&keywords=christmas+truce
 
The book examines the myths that have developed about the Christmas truce and uses them to challenge the conventional narrative of the First World War. No cliff-hanger endings, but if you would like to read an iconoclastic approach to the war, you might enjoy it.
 
And because all roads lead to prog, it even contains a Yes reference as an epigraph:
 
 



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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 07:37
Congratulations Terri Clap 

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 07:48
Fantastic news! I'll tell Micky when he comes back from work. I'm sure he'll be interested in reading it!




Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 08:01
Congratulations! It seems a very interesting book Smile Let's hope someone will get into Yes thanks to that reference Tongue


Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 08:13
Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Congratulations! It seems a very interesting book Smile Let's hope someone will get into Yes thanks to that reference Tongue
 
or maybe that someone will get into the book thanks to the Yes reference? Wink


Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 08:18
^ That too of course Smile


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 08:25
Congratulations Terri!  Completing a book and having it published is such a great accomplishment.



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Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 08:28
Congrats! I do love myself a good history book, so I'd love to check it out. Will it be in any bookstores or just online?

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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 09:07
Well done! And very interesting too. Congrats. Clap



Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 09:07
Impressive, congratulations


Posted By: DDPascalDD
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 10:14
Very impressive indeed! Great work, good books aren't easy to write and the subject is very interesting!

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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:12
Congratulations! Clap


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:15
Congrats

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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:56
Originally posted by sublime220 sublime220 wrote:

Congrats! I do love myself a good history book, so I'd love to check it out. Will it be in any bookstores or just online?
 
It is available in bookstores and libraries but I have no idea who is stocking it, so you probably can get your local bookstore to order one if you ask nicely.
 
and thanks, everyone. I am pleased and yes, a little bit proud too.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:57
What a tremendous accomplishment.  Congratulations!


Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 12:44
Yay, that's great. Now I have to get it and read it....

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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 15:04
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Yay, that's great. Now I have to get it and read it....
 
you don't actually have to...but I would like it if you would.


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 15:36
If I ever get a chance to read it I definitely will! I have not read much on that subject but it seems interesting.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 06 2015 at 21:11
Wonderful.  Quite satisfying, I know.



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 00:42
I suppose you speak of that football match between the British and German soldiers that they played in Comines-Warneton (Beligum) during the first winter of WW1





Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 00:47
Congrats


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 00:50
Awww I know this story very well, it's beautiful and sad at the same time, the spirit of Christmas both sides also sang, Oh, Holy Night and Stille Nacht! Heil'ge nacht... they were only soldiers, boys, men who were being told what to do but that night for Christmas they made a truce, for one night only, no fighting, for all to enjoy the spirit of Christmas.  Heart


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 00:51
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Congrats
 
I second what Rogerthat, said too!! Congrats!!


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 01:59
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Awww I know this story very well, it's beautiful and sad at the same time, the spirit of Christmas both sides also sang, Oh, Holy Night and Stille Nacht! Heil'ge nacht... they were only soldiers, boys, men who were being told what to do but that night for Christmas they made a truce, for one night only, no fighting, for all to enjoy the spirit of Christmas.  Heart
That's the romanticised version. As I understand it (and I obviously haven't read Terri's book yet), small truces occurred at various times throughout the first 18 or so months of the war, often to allow each side to collect and bury the bodies of the fallen. The 1914 christmas truce was not a single event, but a number of small impromptu truces along the Western Front (and at least one on the Eastern Front between a few Austrian and Russian troops), not all of these involved carol singing and the exchange of gifts. I also understand it that the idea that there were football matches between the two sides is also somewhat romanticised, the conditions in no-man's land would have been far to grim for that, however several soldier's letters tell of friendly kick-a-bouts occurring during the truces, mostly amongst the men on one side though there are a few were opposing sides played together.


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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 08:51
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Awww I know this story very well, it's beautiful and sad at the same time, the spirit of Christmas both sides also sang, Oh, Holy Night and Stille Nacht! Heil'ge nacht... they were only soldiers, boys, men who were being told what to do but that night for Christmas they made a truce, for one night only, no fighting, for all to enjoy the spirit of Christmas.  Heart
That's the romanticised version. As I understand it (and I obviously haven't read Terri's book yet), small truces occurred at various times throughout the first 18 or so months of the war, often to allow each side to collect and bury the bodies of the fallen. The 1914 christmas truce was not a single event, but a number of small impromptu truces along the Western Front (and at least one on the Eastern Front between a few Austrian and Russian troops), not all of these involved carol singing and the exchange of gifts. I also understand it that the idea that there were football matches between the two sides is also somewhat romanticised, the conditions in no-man's land would have been far to grim for that, however several soldier's letters tell of friendly kick-a-bouts occurring during the truces, mostly amongst the men on one side though there are a few were opposing sides played together.
 
Much as I hate to disagree with Kati (suppose she stops sending me hugs), Dean is correct.  My book is an attempt to correct the romanticized version of the truce, and then use that to disagree with the conventional narrative of the First World War.  Here's a passage from the book that sums up my argument:
 
"The Christmas truce, shorn of its mythology, is impossible to categorize simply, yet even those who challenge the conventional narrative of the war can’t seem to resist the conventional narrative of the truce. The myth of the 1914 armistice is based on the belief that the soldiers who took part in it shared our modern sensibilities, hated war as we hate war, and rebelled against that futile conflict as we are certain we would have rebelled against it. The truce resonates with us today because we have long since decided where our sympathies lie, which is with the poets who represented the soldiers in the trenches and who captured their plight in such vivid language. As a result, the story of what really happened during the two weeks that started on Christmas Eve 1914 and finally ended about 10 January 1915 rarely cites the letters and diaries of the men involved, but relies instead on postwar memories that reinforce what we already believe. Christmas was celebrated in the trenches on 25 December 1914 as a sentimental rather than a religious holiday, and the widespread but not universal cease-fires and fraternizations were entered into in that spirit by a largely professional army composed of men who supported the war that they were fighting. To comprehend that viewpoint, it is necessary to reject much of what we now believe about the First World War, but to continue to impose a narrative on the truce that is contradicted by the accounts written home by those who took part in it does a disservice to the very soldiers whom we now view as victimized. They did not see themselves in that way, and imputing to them a consciousness that thoroughly misrepresents their perception of the conflict does not help us understand either the war or the truce."
 
While it is true that there were many references in letters and diaries to football matches, they were mostly to matches that happened elsewhere (i.e., "We heard that XXX battalion played the Germans at football") and only three references to matches that actually took place (out of 54 battalions involved), so the idea that everyone played football at the truce(s) is just another myth.
 
Well, I just gave away the ending, so now I've saved you all the trouble of reading the book. LOL


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 10:47
^ Actually, it makes me want to read it even more. Approve

Another reason why we shouldn't regard the truce, and subsequently the whole of the war, with modern sensibilities is it the attitude to the war was very different then. After only five months of fighting, of which only the last two had been in the trenches, the mood was still, [erm], optimistic. Both sides believed the war would be short and at that time trench warfare had only ever been used by one side as a defence against advancement by the other. No one expected it to be a protracted entrenchment by both sides leading to a stalemate of attrition, none had ever experienced war on an industrial scale and no one could know the full horrors that modern trench warfare would bring. There would have been fewer (if any) truces in subsequent years as the realities of the situation became more apparent even without the field orders that expressly forbade fraternisation issued after the 1914 christmas truces.





...okay, so I'm way more interested in this subject that I thought - I've just pre-ordered the book. Approve


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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 10:52
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ Actually, it makes me want to read it even more. Approve

Another reason why we shouldn't regard the truce, and subsequently the whole of the war, with modern sensibilities is it the attitude to the war was very different then. After only five months of fighting, of which only the last two had been in the trenches, the mood was still, [erm], optimistic. Both sides believed the war would be short and at that time trench warfare had only ever been used by one side as a defence against advancement by the other. No one expected it to be a protracted entrenchment by both sides leading to a stalemate of attrition, none had ever experienced war on an industrial scale and no one could know the full horrors that modern trench warfare would bring. There would have been fewer (if any) truces in subsequent years as the realities of the situation became more apparent even without the field orders that expressly forbade fraternisation issued after the 1914 christmas truces.





...okay, so I'm way more interested in this subject that I thought - I've just pre-ordered the book. Approve
 
Hmm, well, I could disagree with at least some of your statements above, but I'll wait till you read the book and then we can have a debate.  One thing I will say is that I found very few soldiers in the first month of the war who believed it would be a short war, and similarly little evidence for that view in the newspapers.  In fact, those who signed up for the war in the first few months signed up for a duration of three years or until the end of the war, whichever was longer....which means that at least Kitchener figured out it wasn't going to be over quickly.
 
and there were post-1914 fraternizations, which I discuss in chapter 6.  Have fun.


Posted By: RayRo
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 10:52
Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Awww I know this story very well, it's beautiful and sad at the same time, the spirit of Christmas both sides also sang, Oh, Holy Night and Stille Nacht! Heil'ge nacht... they were only soldiers, boys, men who were being told what to do but that night for Christmas they made a truce, for one night only, no fighting, for all to enjoy the spirit of Christmas.  Heart
That's the romanticised version. As I understand it (and I obviously haven't read Terri's book yet), small truces occurred at various times throughout the first 18 or so months of the war, often to allow each side to collect and bury the bodies of the fallen. The 1914 christmas truce was not a single event, but a number of small impromptu truces along the Western Front (and at least one on the Eastern Front between a few Austrian and Russian troops), not all of these involved carol singing and the exchange of gifts. I also understand it that the idea that there were football matches between the two sides is also somewhat romanticised, the conditions in no-man's land would have been far to grim for that, however several soldier's letters tell of friendly kick-a-bouts occurring during the truces, mostly amongst the men on one side though there are a few were opposing sides played together.
 
Much as I hate to disagree with Kati (suppose she stops sending me hugs), Dean is correct.  My book is an attempt to correct the romanticized version of the truce, and then use that to disagree with the conventional narrative of the First World War.  Here's a passage from the book that sums up my argument:
 
"The Christmas truce, shorn of its mythology, is impossible to categorize simply, yet even those who challenge the conventional narrative of the war can’t seem to resist the conventional narrative of the truce. The myth of the 1914 armistice is based on the belief that the soldiers who took part in it shared our modern sensibilities, hated war as we hate war, and rebelled against that futile conflict as we are certain we would have rebelled against it. The truce resonates with us today because we have long since decided where our sympathies lie, which is with the poets who represented the soldiers in the trenches and who captured their plight in such vivid language. As a result, the story of what really happened during the two weeks that started on Christmas Eve 1914 and finally ended about 10 January 1915 rarely cites the letters and diaries of the men involved, but relies instead on postwar memories that reinforce what we already believe. Christmas was celebrated in the trenches on 25 December 1914 as a sentimental rather than a religious holiday, and the widespread but not universal cease-fires and fraternizations were entered into in that spirit by a largely professional army composed of men who supported the war that they were fighting. To comprehend that viewpoint, it is necessary to reject much of what we now believe about the First World War, but to continue to impose a narrative on the truce that is contradicted by the accounts written home by those who took part in it does a disservice to the very soldiers whom we now view as victimized. They did not see themselves in that way, and imputing to them a consciousness that thoroughly misrepresents their perception of the conflict does not help us understand either the war or the truce."
 
While it is true that there were many references in letters and diaries to football matches, they were mostly to matches that happened elsewhere (i.e., "We heard that XXX battalion played the Germans at football") and only three references to matches that actually took place (out of 54 battalions involved), so the idea that everyone played football at the truce(s) is just another myth.
 
Well, I just gave away the ending, so now I've saved you all the trouble of reading the book. LOL
Wow! A "warts and all" retelling of this almost mythical event in history. That's something that's definitely up my tree and is also timely for the coming holiday season.
 
Double wow! It also makes a great holiday gift, too!


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 10:58
A few of those Chirstmas fraternizations in The Great War also were on the Tessaloniki front between Serbian and Bulgarian troops (both ortodox christians), what was ended by both commands' orders that to kill everyone between trenches.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 11:14
Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

 
Hmm, well, I could disagree with at least some of your statements above, but I'll wait till you read the book and then we can have a debate.  One thing I will say is that I found very few soldiers in the first month of the war who believed it would be a short war, and similarly little evidence for that view in the newspapers.  In fact, those who signed up for the war in the first few months signed up for a duration of three years or until the end of the war, whichever was longer....which means that at least Kitchener figured out it wasn't going to be over quickly.
 
and there were post-1914 fraternizations, which I discuss in chapter 6.  Have fun.
Then perhaps my understanding that the initial belief in Britain was the war would be "over by christmas" is another extrapolated myth. Of course how quickly that initial expectation may have evaporated is another matter, obviously once christmas came and went so did the expectation. I also believe (until now perhaps) that on the German side they never expected the advancements they had made in the first three months would come to such an abrupt stop and they too expected a short war. 

I know there were post-1914 truces, but believe they were significantly fewer and much less publicised.

However, I am not questioning your research on this, nor your conclusions, I'm just displaying my lack of knowledge.Wink


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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 11:23
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

 
Hmm, well, I could disagree with at least some of your statements above, but I'll wait till you read the book and then we can have a debate.  One thing I will say is that I found very few soldiers in the first month of the war who believed it would be a short war, and similarly little evidence for that view in the newspapers.  In fact, those who signed up for the war in the first few months signed up for a duration of three years or until the end of the war, whichever was longer....which means that at least Kitchener figured out it wasn't going to be over quickly.
 
and there were post-1914 fraternizations, which I discuss in chapter 6.  Have fun.
Then perhaps my understanding that the initial belief in Britain was the war would be "over by christmas" is another extrapolated myth. Of course how quickly that initial expectation may have evaporated is another matter, obviously once christmas came and went so did the expectation. I also believe (until now perhaps) that on the German side they never expected the advancements they had made in the first three months would come to such an abrupt stop and they too expected a short war. 

I know there were post-1914 truces, but believe they were significantly fewer and much less publicised.

However, I am not questioning your research on this, nor your conclusions, I'm just displaying my lack of knowledge.Wink
 
You certainly don't lack knowledge, but I do think your perspective may shift a bit after reading the book.  What I found during the research I completed for the work really did change my mind about a number of things, but at the same time it's worth remembering that you can find support for just about any view you want to take on the war. The question is whether you are cherry-picking to advance a certain argument or whether you are actually going with a "preponderance of the evidence" standard.  There were certainly those who thought the war was going to end quickly, but it appeared from my research that this was a minority view. And you are correct, the post-1914 truces were fewer and less well-publicized.


Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 11:25
Originally posted by RayRo RayRo wrote:

 
Double wow! It also makes a great holiday gift, too!
 
Absolutely, it would make a great Christmas gift for everyone on your list.  And I hope you all have very long lists. Wink


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 11:28
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 11:32
Congrats, Terri!
 
You know I'll be ordering it.
 
Oh, and the reviews are coming in from some very famous people:
 
This is not a book to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force.
-- Dorothy Parker
 
From the moment I picked your book up until I laid I down I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend reading it.
-- Groucho Marx
 
Your manuscript is both good and original; but the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good.
-- Samuel Johnson
 
Very nice, though there are dull stretches.
-- Antoine de Rivarol
 
The Devil damn thee black, thou cream-faced loon!
-- William Shakespeare
 
The verses, when they were written, resembled nothing so much as spoonfuls of boiling oil, ladled out by a fiendish monkey at an upstairs window upon such of the passers-by whom the wretch had a grudge against.
-- Lytton Strachey
 
A louse in the locks of literature.
-- Alfred, Lord Tennyson
 
An idiot child screaming in the hospital.
-- H.G. Wells
 
The work of a queasy undergraduate scratching her pimples.
-- Virginia Wolfe
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 12:00

^ as Oscar Wilde once said, the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.  My "reviews" certainly bear that out.



Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 12:21
Congratz!

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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: November 07 2015 at 13:13
Sounds like an interesting read. Congratulations!


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 09 2015 at 15:50
I'll add my belated congratulations to the list!


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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 11 2015 at 13:42
Haha, the Washington Times has decided I'm a fellow liberal-bashing neocon:
 
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/10/book-review-the-christmas-truce-myth-memory-and-th/" rel="nofollow - http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/10/book-review-the-christmas-truce-myth-memory-and-th/
 
is there an emoticon for rolling around in the floor laughing?


Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 11 2015 at 17:02
Will we hear more from this young historian?


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 11 2015 at 17:05
Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Haha, the Washington Times has decided I'm a fellow liberal-bashing neocon:
 
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/10/book-review-the-christmas-truce-myth-memory-and-th/" rel="nofollow - http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/10/book-review-the-christmas-truce-myth-memory-and-th/
 
is there an emoticon for rolling around in the floor laughing?
You're such a fascist, Terri! Big smile


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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 11 2015 at 21:01
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Haha, the Washington Times has decided I'm a fellow liberal-bashing neocon:
 
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/10/book-review-the-christmas-truce-myth-memory-and-th/" rel="nofollow - http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/10/book-review-the-christmas-truce-myth-memory-and-th/
 
is there an emoticon for rolling around in the floor laughing?
You're such a fascist, Terri! Big smile
 
Outed by the Washington Times...oh, the humiliation!


Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: November 11 2015 at 21:02
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Will we hear more from this young historian?
 
I had to break it to my publishers that they really shouldn't use that quote LOL


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 12 2015 at 01:11
Yeah, right Wink

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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: November 14 2015 at 00:19
Awesome news! 
And the type of thing that's right up my alley. I'll be sure to give it a readSmile



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