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Topic: Milk
Posted By: Finnforest
Subject: Milk
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 17:02
Pick your favorite bodacious bovine beverage


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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 17:13
Skim all the way. I had some 2% the other day and it was like drinking cream.  Ugh.


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 17:13
as far as actual cow squeezin's go, whole milk with chocolate is best. Other kinds of milk I've had are hard to keep track of, but I think almond might be my favorite so far?


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 17:14
Other: bull milk.


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 17:19
Whole....love the cream.  What a treat. 



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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 17:21
Either extra cream Jersey or Guernsey milk, or Vodka...........
Can't stand lite milk, and I'd never touch long-life or powdered milk products.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 17:32
big M drinker--  there used to be an Extra Rich variety that was delicious, don't see it much anymore.



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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 18:29
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

big M drinker--  there used to be an Extra Rich variety that was delicious, don't see it much anymore.




What is that David?  Something beyond Whole Milk?  Let me know if you recall the name, I'd like to look for it.  I love maximum richness in milk. 


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 18:38
^ Ditto.
We have these ready made shakes here in the chiller section that are mega-creamy and delicious, especially the Strawberries & Cream variety. Might have to get me one today.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 18:50
Extra Rich Vitamin D Milk
This is all I could find online, though I rarely see it in stores (probably the silly fat phobia that survives, when most fats don't make you fat)

It's definitely beyond Whole milk, they must add some cream.  It is yummy-yummy though I don't know if I could drink it daily.




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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 20:08
Whole. Everything else is a con. 

Unless you're drinking the stuff neat by the quart then the amount of butterfat you consume in tea or coffee is going to be about the same regardless of the percentage in the carton because you generally use more of the lower fat milks...

For example if you put 15ml of whole milk in your beverage then that contains 0.55gm of butterfat. If you put 15ml of 2% semi-skimmed in your beverage the colour won't be right so you add 7.5ml more - now it has 22.5ml of 2% milk which, (low and behold), now contains 0.55gm of butterfat. 

Now the problem is not the fat content because on the face of it the amount of butterfat you consume through drinking milk doesn't add up to a great deal. In a week that's going to be considerably less than what you'd spread on your toast in one morning. You'd need to drink 12.5 litres of 2% milk to consume the same butterfat as a contained in a 250gm pack of butter (21 pints = 8oz of butter). Aside from the on-going debate about whether eating fat makes you fat or not, it's going to take a hell of a lot of milk to make anyone fat.

The problem is the sugar (lactose) content for all these milks is the same - roughly 50gm per litre (or 1oz per pint) regardless of whether it is whole, semi-skimmed or skimmed  - so when you add 50% more 2% milk to your tea or coffee not only are you consuming the same amount of fat, you are now consuming 50% more sugar.

Of course most of that is moot if you are drinking lattes all day - but as I said, it isn't the fat content you should be worrying about...

So to recap - if you only use milk to colour your tea of coffee then whole milk is the better option.


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 20:33
Chilled https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpfFpuyTt1s" rel="nofollow - breast milky flavour-wise, sweet and creamy, but you have to be careful of the source for it to be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri7wC_g5M84" rel="nofollow - safe as milk from the grocer. I don't like really freshly squeezed milk of any kind (warm milk straight from the cow is a bit yuck for me). For normal consumption I get homogenized 3.25% mf, and drink too much of it (addicted to choco moo), but I wish we could easily get creamier milk here. I used to avoid milk when Scuba diving, not done much of that in many years, and saw a sci-fi film that put me off milk for a while (at least unlike the character I am not lactose intolerant) .



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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 20:36
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Extra Rich Vitamin D Milk
This is all I could find online, though I rarely see it in stores (probably the silly fat phobia that survives, when most fats don't make you fat)

It's definitely beyond Whole milk, they must add some cream.  It is yummy-yummy though I don't know if I could drink it daily.


We have a similar product:
The cream settles to the top just like it used to in the old days when milk was delivered in glass bottles.
5% fat, so as you say - beyond whole milk, I know this as "gold top" thought it is also known as "full-cream". I use this to make rice pudding as it makes the richest, creamiest puds.

To produce this milk they don't necessarily add extra cream. Traditionally the high-cream content would because they used cows that naturally produced a higher fat content such as Jersey or Guernsey (like the one shown on the label). 

Interestingly whole, semi-skimmed and skimmed milks are all processed by first removing all the fats and then adding it back in to produce the required fat content so "whole milk" is actually skimmed milk with 3.25% cream added back in.


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 21:11
Skim, and only skim.

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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 21:12
I need to find some of this super rich milk, it sounds amazing.  I should point out, I'm not talking about just a bit of milk to add to Coffee, I'm talking about milk to DRINK with cereal, cookies, or whatever.  So at least a nice tall  glass per day. 

I can't see the point of enjoying milk any other way.  Skim milk for me is like drinking half milk, half water, there's no pleasure. 



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 21:17
^ No doubt, bubba, it goes amazing with cake -




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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 21:25
I will find it some super-milk and buy a big chocolate cake....Big smile

Tried the goat milk a long time ago, it wasn't too bad.  Fairly rich. 

Soy and Almond I've had as well but can't say I enjoy them. 


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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 21:39
Soy


Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 21:41
I voted 2% because you don't have my actual choice, which is 1%.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 21:44
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Soy and Almond I've had as well but can't say I enjoy them. 

Nor I, and the kind with the split sugar molecule ~ what is it non-lactose? ~ is strangely enough much too sweet.




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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 21:52
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

I voted 2% because you don't have my actual choice, which is 1%.



Damn! 
You're right man, I did forget that one.  Sorry. 


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 21:53
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Soy and Almond I've had as well but can't say I enjoy them. 

Nor I, and the kind with the split sugar molecule ~ what is it non-lactose? ~ is strangely enough much too sweet.





Yeah, it's not a good sweet either.  Seems to me I bought an unsweetened variety when I used it that was a little better. 

 


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 04 2016 at 21:55
LOL  no it's not a good sweet




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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 00:52
I like both - Oat milk, Rice milk, Soy Milk, probably also almond milk, milk with vanilla flavour is also delishous, but i like also natural oat, rice and soy, dont like cow milk, but love to mix cocoa powder in it mmmm, and chai-latte

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Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 03:20
What about human milk?

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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 03:24
I am allergic to soy and almond. Whole is my choice.


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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 03:46
Other.  

Don't really drink milk much except with the occasional bowl of cereal or oatmeal, but do loves me some cheese.  Cheddar, Brie, Swiss, Bleu, Cottage, feta, Edam, Colby, Munster ... pretty much any coagulated milk that doesn't make me sick.




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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 04:47
Are all watery white emulsions that bear a passing visual resemblance to mammalian milk now classified as milk? If I mix a teaspoon of mayonnaise in a glass of water can I call that mayo milk? What about Ouzo and water, can I call that milk too? Try chalk dust or talc mixed with water - full of natural calcium for strong healthy bones.

So.. take a bowl of oatmeal and add water. Wait several hours then strain off the resulting oat-juice, discard the oat mush solids and then further filter the oat-juice to make oat "milk". Now take a fresh bowl of oatmeal and add your oat "milk". Consume and (presumably) enjoy... Is it not quicker, easier and less wasteful just to eat the first bowl of oatmeal and water?




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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 04:51
Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

Other.  

Don't really drink milk much except with the occasional bowl of cereal or oatmeal, but do loves me some cheese.  Cheddar, Brie, Swiss, Bleu, Cottage, feta, Edam, Colby, Munster ... pretty much any coagulated milk that doesn't make me sick.


I accidentally ate some non-dairy vegan "cheese" once... it's not something I'd do twice. Dead


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 05:15
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I should point out, I'm not talking about just a bit of milk to add to Coffee, I'm talking about milk to DRINK with cereal, cookies, or whatever.  So at least a nice tall  glass per day. 
I never drink raw milk. I am of the generation of UK children who were given free milk at school every morning and the experience put me off milk as a drink for life. Since they did not have refrigerators large enough to store that much milk it was served at a sickly warm temperature regardless of the weather outside (in winter it was put on the radiators to warm it up) - to this today the smell of warm milk just turns my stomach. For me milk is just an ingredient on route to becoming something more palatable and pleasurable.

However, I do like me a milkshake made with a huge scoop of dairy ice-cream - preferably just vanilla though adding a fresh banana is just as good (especially hit with a shot of banana liqueur and a drizzle of maple syrup... healthy this is not). For a while I was hooked on shakes made with sherbet and liquorice ... 


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Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 05:50
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I should point out, I'm not talking about just a bit of milk to add to Coffee, I'm talking about milk to DRINK with cereal, cookies, or whatever.  So at least a nice tall  glass per day. 
I never drink raw milk. I am of the generation of UK children who were given free milk at school every morning and the experience put me off milk as a drink for life. Since they did not have refrigerators large enough to store that much milk it was served at a sickly warm temperature regardless of the weather outside (in winter it was put on the radiators to warm it up) - to this today the smell of warm milk just turns my stomach. For me milk is just an ingredient on route to becoming something more palatable and pleasurable.

Something along those lines for me too.  As a kid I we fell on some - let's say hard times, for a few years.  Uncle Sam took care of us with loads of government-issued nutritional sustenance, which unfortunately included bowel-impacting peanut butter, bread you could shave your beard with, and this stuff:



BTW milk is not generally served in lumps, something I didn't learn until things got a bit better financially.  Needless to say I never really developed a taste for the stuff after that ...



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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 05:52
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 09:04
I prefer the taste of whole milk but my wife usually buys 1% for the house.....so-called health reasons.
 


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 09:07
Blind Russians... one of my favorites of my lost years as bartender,barfly and all around fall down drunk


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Posted By: Michael P. Dawson
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 09:20
I switched to almond milk years ago, after finding soy milk too gritty. Now, after getting used to the substitute, I can't go back to dairy milk because it tastes spoiled to me--I can taste what it's going to be like when it goes sour even when it's fresh. I never drink it anyway--I only use it for tea/coffee or cereal.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 13:25
white russian

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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 13:37
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I should point out, I'm not talking about just a bit of milk to add to Coffee, I'm talking about milk to DRINK with cereal, cookies, or whatever.  So at least a nice tall  glass per day. 
I never drink raw milk. I am of the generation of UK children who were given free milk at school every morning and the experience put me off milk as a drink for life. Since they did not have refrigerators large enough to store that much milk it was served at a sickly warm temperature regardless of the weather outside (in winter it was put on the radiators to warm it up) - to this today the smell of warm milk just turns my stomach. For me milk is just an ingredient on route to becoming something more palatable and pleasurable.
 
 
I will say I never got used to British milk.  It always tasted dreadful to me, I only ever used it on cereal or in tea and even then it was difficult to cope with.  I hated the way the top was creamy and the bottom tasted like whey rather than milk.  Even mixing it didn't help.
 
Really appreciating my cup of British tea made with American milk right now.
 
 


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 17:08
Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I should point out, I'm not talking about just a bit of milk to add to Coffee, I'm talking about milk to DRINK with cereal, cookies, or whatever.  So at least a nice tall  glass per day. 
I never drink raw milk. I am of the generation of UK children who were given free milk at school every morning and the experience put me off milk as a drink for life. Since they did not have refrigerators large enough to store that much milk it was served at a sickly warm temperature regardless of the weather outside (in winter it was put on the radiators to warm it up) - to this today the smell of warm milk just turns my stomach. For me milk is just an ingredient on route to becoming something more palatable and pleasurable.
 
 
I will say I never got used to British milk.  It always tasted dreadful to me, I only ever used it on cereal or in tea and even then it was difficult to cope with.  I hated the way the top was creamy and the bottom tasted like whey rather than milk.  Even mixing it didn't help.
 
Really appreciating my cup of British tea made with American milk right now.
 
 
In order to comply with the questionable requirement to produce milk with a fixed percentage of fat (something a cow is incapable of doing itself) British milk is now manufactured in exactly the same way as milk produced in your American chemical factories so the cream does not separate out and it tastes (depressingly) exactly the same (bland, homogenised & flavourless) ... but when that is what you are use to then anything that actually tastes of something will seem pretty weird. [this message was brought to you by a Brit who takes umbrage at the used of the superlative "dreadful" used by someone who has already admitted that to them half-fat milk was too creamy and tasted, and I quote, 'ugh'] Geek


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Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 18:32
Voted for skim as that is what we use and drink at home (its all the wife will drink or use). 
However, my brother in law is a grade A dairy farmer in the states (hardest damn working person I have ever known, not a corporate farmer, still family owned and run) and now and then he will scoop a gallon or so of milk from the tank when he has to test and/or check the quality of the milk.   After a few checks before it gets picked up by the trucks to go to the companies who pasteurize or do whatever they do to it for markets and if I am up there at the time, we get to drink it (not warm of course).  It is thick and rich and awesome.  By the way, the barn cats love the hell out of that stuff when he puts some down for them, funny to watch LOL.

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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 18:58
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I should point out, I'm not talking about just a bit of milk to add to Coffee, I'm talking about milk to DRINK with cereal, cookies, or whatever.  So at least a nice tall  glass per day. 
I never drink raw milk. I am of the generation of UK children who were given free milk at school every morning and the experience put me off milk as a drink for life. Since they did not have refrigerators large enough to store that much milk it was served at a sickly warm temperature regardless of the weather outside (in winter it was put on the radiators to warm it up) - to this today the smell of warm milk just turns my stomach. For me milk is just an ingredient on route to becoming something more palatable and pleasurable.
 
 
I will say I never got used to British milk.  It always tasted dreadful to me, I only ever used it on cereal or in tea and even then it was difficult to cope with.  I hated the way the top was creamy and the bottom tasted like whey rather than milk.  Even mixing it didn't help.
 
Really appreciating my cup of British tea made with American milk right now.
 
 
In order to comply with the questionable requirement to produce milk with a fixed percentage of fat (something a cow is incapable of doing itself) British milk is now manufactured in exactly the same way as milk produced in your American chemical factories so the cream does not separate out and it tastes (depressingly) exactly the same (bland, homogenised & flavourless) ... but when that is what you are use to then anything that actually tastes of something will seem pretty weird. [this message was brought to you by a Brit who takes umbrage at the used of the superlative "dreadful" used by someone who has already admitted that to them half-fat milk was too creamy and tasted, and I quote, 'ugh'] Geek
 
You may take all the umbrage you like, but that won't make British milk in the 1980s taste any better.


Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 20:27
I prefer the alternative brand "Schmilk". Has all the ingredients of milk but with none of the taste!

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 21:16
One percent. Because after my heart attack, the doctor said I should use skim milk. But I just can't bring myself to drink that white water stuff.

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Posted By: emigre80
Date Posted: June 05 2016 at 22:09
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

One percent. Because after my heart attack, the doctor said I should use skim milk. But I just can't bring myself to drink that white water stuff.
 
You could try organic.  In my opinion, it tastes much better, even the skim.


Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 06 2016 at 04:52
I'm surprised the correct option is winning.



Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 06 2016 at 05:28
multiple voting should be possible here. I voted "whole" but could also have given my vote to "almond", "goat" or "other" (sheep, camel, buffalo, strawberry, banana or hazelnut)


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: June 06 2016 at 06:04
Voted 2%. Goat is a no-op since it has a remarkable lack of bovinity.

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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: June 06 2016 at 06:33
anything less than 2% is just colored water.  also, gtfo with those fake milks.


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