Is there 'Goth Prog'?
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Topic: Is there 'Goth Prog'?
Posted By: floyd4
Subject: Is there 'Goth Prog'?
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 14:12
| I know goth is very punk-esq, but I'm wondering if there's some bands that focus on complex and prog-y but dark subject matter. |
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Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 14:19
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Van Der Graff Generator on The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other. This assumes Goth has saxophonists! |
Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 14:39
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I recommend Alejandro Matos' "Persona", a nice mix of dark heavy prog ŕ la King Crimson and 80's gothic rock / cold wave: https://alejandromatos.bandcamp.com/album/persona" rel="nofollow - https://alejandromatos.bandcamp.com/album/persona ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqf2srRfppHAslEmHBn8QP6d_eoanh0eW" rel="nofollow - My compositions |
Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 14:43
 Not Goth but looks like Goth.
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Posted By: Mcg817
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 16:03
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There is! Devil Doll a band from the 80's, who made hour long tracks that were a gothic, progressive rock operas, with some surprisingly good heavy moments. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/-JrXn8dyc1s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Posted By: Mcg817
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 16:04
| https://youtu.be/-JrXn8dyc1s |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 17:17
first thing that popped into my mind.. though what do I know... I wouldn't know a Visi from a Goth. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
AZF wrote:Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 19:18
| I don't know if it counts, but Italian band Goblin has some very dark music, since they mostly wrote scores for horror films. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 20:27
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I would say some of the stuff by the Cure would qualify. There are probably other bands who aren't typically considered prog who would qualify also. I've never really thought of VDGG as gothic prog or even really all that gothicky(sp?). I suppose some of their stuff could qualify. As for Devil Doll I haven't heard them. I do know they only had one album in the eighties though. They mostly recorded in the nineties.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 20:49
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I agree with the Devil Doll suggestion as that is the most gothic prog rock suggestion i can think of. However if you can stand to up the intensity into the metal world then there are more options. I personally love Vauxdvihl, OXXO XOOX (the vowls all have umlauts) as well as Moonsorrow, Tiamat and Lake Of Tears. Here's a whole list of prog goth metal bands in fact http://www.metalkingdom.net/genre/Progressive+Gothic+Metal" rel="nofollow - Genre: Progressive Gothic Metal - Metal Kingdom -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Thatfabulousalien
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 21:13
I'm pretty sure there are a heap of prog metal bands influenced by Type O Negative and Paradise Lost 
Green Carnation comes to mind: (and their hour long prog masterpiece) ------------- Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV. https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325 |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 22:04
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------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 19 2017 at 23:43
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Ataraxia ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Cambus741
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 01:37
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Current 93 and Death in June spring to mind. All the Pretty Little horses by Current 93 is a masterpiece |
Posted By: Patient
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 11:51
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If we're talking purely about dark subject matter, then VdGG's 70s albums are definitely the way to go, and Peter Hammill's solo albums, although few of them are actually prog - Chameleon in the Shadow of the Night, In Camera, The Silent Corner and the Empty stage - if you're looking for a purely "prog" sound. I wouldn't call any of it "goth" though, except for one song: http://youtu.be/CW7NC9V0XAY" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/CW7NC9V0XAY . If we're talking about a "gothic" sound, then I can recommend Peter Hammill's solo album-opera The Fall of the House of Usher (if you check it out, make sure it's the "Deconstructed and Rebuilt" version). It's not prog, but it's based on Edgar Allan Poe and definitely very gothic. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 12:42
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VDGG on ocassion spring to mind... However, I would recommend the album Elyzium by Fields of the Nephilim has some very atmospheric and quite proggy leanings IMO. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 14:10
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This is kinda gothy and proggy at the same time: ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
Posted By: Kepler62
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 14:17
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4wM9w79_YI" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4wM9w79_YI |
Posted By: doompaul
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 14:27
| Why are we sleeping? by Soft Machine has a very goth feel to it. |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 14:30
| Early recordings by The Red Masque are way goth, Good stuff too. |
Posted By: surrogate people
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 14:56
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qn54fhQfdw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qn54fhQfdw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOsf2eYc354" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOsf2eYc354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ljsqntQiDo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ljsqntQiDo The closest thing I can think of is Saviour Machine, a band that combines metal, prog and goth and sounds like no other band I know. Their second album is awesome, and their "Legend " trilogy is really impressive, even if , like me, you're no christian! ------------- Surrogate People they walk on by, they walk on by When they replace you They live your life, they live your life |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: February 20 2017 at 18:05
| There's a band called Fields of the Nephilim who are supposedly a bit of both. Also a band who has been around for quite a while called Black Tape For a Blue Girl. Also, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Dead Can Dance. |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: February 21 2017 at 00:02
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Try Via Obscura, from Germany. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7605" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7605 https://viaobscura.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - https://viaobscura.bandcamp.com/ ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: aliano
Date Posted: February 21 2017 at 02:03
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White Willow |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: February 21 2017 at 07:58
| Dead Can Dance |
Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: February 22 2017 at 04:11
Devil Doll, Jacula, Antonius Rex. 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 22 2017 at 06:39
TBH, my first thought went to early Dead Can Dance, before Devill Doll... But if you want to enlarge a bit the definition, Art Zoyd, Univers Zéro and Présent are all very gothic by the sheer darkness and lugubrious settings of their music?..... and Shub-Niggurath goes a couple of steps further.
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Posted By: CapnBearbossa
Date Posted: February 22 2017 at 12:32
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Dead Can Dance. My particular faves from the band are Into The Labyrinth and In The Realm Of A Dying Sun. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3172 ------------- Will higher mighty force redeem the one who dropped the moral compass, failed to fulfill the dream? -Ian Anderson |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 24 2017 at 03:48
Yes, I mentioned the Nephilim earlier in the thread. It's only really their album Elyzium that's got elements of prog in it. Good call on Dead can Dance. They can be proggy from time time. It's world music really though, not goth. Their first couple of albums were slightly goth. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 24 2017 at 06:14
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Teo albums instantly spring to mind: Baron - Columns Kayo Dot - Plastic House On Base Of Sky Love Fields Of The Nephilim too....but they were never really prog imo. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: February 24 2017 at 10:46
| Anyone consider Comus a little Goth? |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: February 26 2017 at 13:38
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Beam Light from Poland is great... ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 26 2017 at 17:03
| I am gonna suggest that certain works in the Thork / Nil / Syrinx canon qualify. |
Posted By: Floyd Steely
Date Posted: February 26 2017 at 20:32
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------------- And if you can't be with the prog you love, honey, love the prog you're with. |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: March 06 2017 at 10:36
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Goth prog is widely present but mainly in a more prog related way. Paradise Lost Moonspell Saviour Machine (obviously of course. Probably the purest prog n' goth combination you'll find.) My dying Bride Opeth (early stages) Fields of The Nephilim The Gathering (early Stages) Katatonia Agalloch Devil Doll ( big time goth prog here, actually. Check out Eliogabulus) Draconian Swallow the sun Artesia Dead Can Dance Gary Numan ( very Bowie like. Replicants (tubeway army) is a good example. ) Three Monks (Neo gothic progressive toccatas) Goblin. (Nuff said. ;) ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: March 06 2017 at 10:42
Oh man, haven't thought to dig out a Mr Doctor album in aaaaaaages!  Also, TURN LOOSE THE SWANS!!!!!  
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: March 06 2017 at 10:50
You got it my beautiful friend. A couple of albums right there that are a real treasure and I am very thankful to have them in my sonic arsenal. Tell you what, Michael. I'm like you where I have not spun either of those albums in quite some time, so since I have a week off from work this week, I shall be catching up on the some critical listening and will for sure spin those 2 albums by this weeks end.  ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: March 06 2017 at 12:23
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